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| Orangesofa Member Since: 10 Oct 2014 Location: Somerset Posts: 214   
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I gather XS spec added ABS/ETC.
All Defenders (inc poverty spec) from 2014 onwards had this as standard (a regulation on all UK vehicles I understand). I have a 2013 poverty spec HT and it doesn't have ABS/ETC. Phil |
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4th Jan 2016 10:36pm |
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| Dave-H Member Since: 08 Feb 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 1507  
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In 2007 It was standard on XS spec, and an option [about £1200] on a County.
How long it stayed that way I don't know ... HTH Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant. |
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4th Jan 2016 10:47pm |
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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971 
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I have a 2011 poverty spec HT and it doesn't either.
County adds things like electric windows, central locking and fold up side steps. XS adds ABS/TC, air con... ABS was always an option, and I think there was something like an offroad pack that added it. Assume it doesn't have ABS unless you get the light on the dash. I have seen base spec HTs with ABS and AC fitted same way I've seen Counties with neither (which is most of them). Poverty spec has the distinct advantages of not having central locking that likes to lock you out at inconvenient moments, and wiring in to the doors that chafes and stops working. ABD and TC are nice to have without a doubt but I'm not loosing sleep over not having them and it's nice to have fewer things to go wrong. Off road I'd rather spend the difference in money on ATB diffs. |
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4th Jan 2016 10:48pm |
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| Mr Fox Member Since: 10 Sep 2011 Location: green & pleasant land Posts: 1026 
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I can appreciate the sentiment that simple is better and ETC is not really something that concerns me; however, the ABS is a nice safety net to have, especially (on those rare occasions) that the Defender is being driven by someone who is less confident behind the wheel.
As it won't be a daily driver, I'm leaning toward it almost being a non-issue but I am still on the fence. Most HT seem to be very low spec and I assume that is because of their commercial nature. |
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4th Jan 2016 11:14pm |
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| Orangesofa Member Since: 10 Oct 2014 Location: Somerset Posts: 214
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I went for poverty spec as a number of the extras that come with an XS were not what I wanted and to pay a premium for something that'd be removed straight away or rarely if ever used seemed daft.
The enjoyment for me was starting with a truly blank canvas and creating exactly what I wanted. I agree on the ABS point though and ideally would have liked that. I have done the LRE day at Eastnor and the ETC was worked quite hard which made me think that could have been useful too. Purists will say this is not necessary and I like to think that it forces me to acquire new skills and drive with greater anticipation... but secretly I cry on the inside for not having bought a '14 model  Phil |
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5th Jan 2016 12:11am |
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