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Tdp



Member Since: 04 Dec 2015
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Defender 2,5 diesel won't start (video)
Hello to all,

I have a newly acquired diesel defender 90 of 1986 (military version). It is impossible to start even thought the battery is good and the starter is new and solenoid works. What is even stranger is the fact that when I turn the key into "position 1" for the glow plugs, the sign illuminate on the dash board and an electronic beep start.

Do any of you experienced this issue or know anything that could help me?

Some help would really be appreciated

Here is a video to show you my issue:


Thank you!
Post #479214 4th Dec 2015 11:50pm
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roel



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Netherlands 2003 Defender 90 Td5 PU Caledonian Blue
My 1984 90's had to turnover a little longer then you do. And also I needed to glow at least 30 seconds when the engine was cold. But they allways started even after year standing still. So I think or you have to try longer and maybe put an additional battery next to it.

These engines normally allways start as long as they get diesel.

Do you smell diesel from your exhaust? Is your soloniod opening?

Was it parked there when it was running? Otherwise you might have to check the timing.

Mine didn't have that beep.

Here how mine started. Ok I had started it a short while before so it wasn't completely cold. But as you see I take time to glow.

http://youtu.be/1ziIVvyoeFE Roel

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Post #479310 5th Dec 2015 12:20pm
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Mash



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Have you tried cracking two injectors off to see if fuel is getting through? 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
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Think I might have a problem............
Post #479325 5th Dec 2015 1:00pm
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I Like Old Skool



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If the battery and starter are good then I reckon that engine is turning over way too slowly. Are you sure it isn't a 24v vehicle still and you have only got 1 12v battery wired in?
Post #479333 5th Dec 2015 1:40pm
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Tdp



Member Since: 04 Dec 2015
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Thank your for your fast answers!

The 12v battery is good, almost new and it is a 12v defender, I checked to be sure. And I also tried with another battery plugged in and it does not change anything

I can hear the solenoid clicking and for the glow plugs, I ordered new ones to be sure.

What is strange is that It was working perfectly when I bought it and by the time I came home the landy would not start any more

I'm going to crack the the two injectors off to be sure the fuel is coming

Once again, I'm very grateful for your help
Post #479412 5th Dec 2015 6:42pm
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dorsetsmith



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you can test glow plugs
Post #479425 5th Dec 2015 7:17pm
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dorsetsmith



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do you have injector pump like this if so look at the pic you can see at the back of the pump blue top fuel stop solenoid on your is it working when crank the engine to start ?
Post #479424 5th Dec 2015 7:17pm
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R1200GS



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Have you checked the small filter thats sits on the end of the pickup pipe inside the tank?

If it is clogged with gunk from an old tank it can allow diesel through but not at a sufficient volume to run the engine.

An easy check is to supply fuel straight to the pump from a can

Brads David
Post #479605 6th Dec 2015 2:06pm
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Thon



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I Like Old Skool wrote:
If the battery and starter are good then I reckon that engine is turning over way too slowly. Are you sure it isn't a 24v vehicle still and you have only got 1 12v battery wired in?


I agree that it still sounds slow to turn over and even on the second attempt it has slowed noticeably. Even if those components are good you may have a bad earth bond from the battery to the chassis. I have had exactly the same problem with my N/A 2.5.

Would also suggest 45 seconds on the heater plugs particularly when the engines are a bit tired, supposing of course they are all operating correctly. I also found on mine that if I re-heated after the first attempt it was much more successful because there was already diesel in the combustion chambers to vaporise. Might just have been my imagination but it seemed to correlate.

Good luck and keep us posted!
Post #479677 6th Dec 2015 5:43pm
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Tdp



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Thanks to all!

After replacing the glow plugs, cleaning all the earth points and tie them up correctly, I achieved to make it run by simply waiting longer for the glowing.

I did 45sec of glowing then re glowing for a few seconds and then no problem to start it!

Once again, thank you all for your help
Post #483955 20th Dec 2015 3:35pm
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