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Doc P



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I was looking at a Browning Heritage......but today, it seems that the other half may be unemployed for a while she tells me. Might have to rethink the budget.
Post #681517 24th Jan 2018 11:35pm
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Chopperone



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Oh, not good.
PM with a spec if you want a price
Guy May your life be like toilet paper ; long & useful.
Post #681527 25th Jan 2018 12:16am
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Lightningtweeds



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Got a 1993 B25 C12 20g with a SHS and hand engraving. Single trigger ej. 27" tubes. Wood to die for....
PM if you are interested?
Post #681534 25th Jan 2018 3:57am
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sako243



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Doc P wrote:
I was looking at a Browning Heritage......

Primarily a personal view but I've done a fair bit of coaching and gun fit over the years but I've always found Brownings and Berettas to be quite barrel heavy, Berettas more so than Brownings it must be said.

Having said that a Browning Ultra XS did serve me well, after all that gun helped the Welsh junior team and I to get bronze at the World Champs years ago Whistle. But shortly afterwards I'd been playing with friends' MK38s (specifically the trap versions) and I never actually shot worse than with my own gun. The 32" version is beautifully balanced, a bit long for rough shooting at rabbits etc. but been very successful on pheasants with it where you have more time. I ended up with a Grade 3 that looks better than most Grade 5s but they do a very nice Prestige version for a bit of extra sparkle.

Everyone I've lent it to has got on superbly with it and in most cases shot better with it - it's always commented on it's a very forgiving gun. I will always remember when I was doing my coaching course in the West Midlands that Tracey Meston, one of the CPSA coaches giving the course, (rather petite lady) borrowed it for a bang after one of the sessions as did one of the instructees a 6'5" Yorkshire man. Both ended up buying one shortly afterwards - Tracey on the drive home to Essex... Ed
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Post #681546 25th Jan 2018 8:29am
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Lightningtweeds



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I just sold a Browning A1 Trap and at 10lbs it was too heavy for walked up shooting but amazing in the hide. L&R's not a problem. I now shoot an EELL in 28g and the little gun never fails to amaze me at its abilities.
Post #681577 25th Jan 2018 12:42pm
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Mr Fox



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Chopperone wrote:

I am surprised, too, that no one has jumped in.
I teach loads of people who are in the same boat as you...


Guy, this is very useful and matches up with much of the reading I've been doing.

As someone who has done a bit of clay shooting in the past but is now getting back into it, it is good to understand other aspects of the field. Thank you for taking the time to write it up.

As an aside, if anyone has any great resources as to what to look for in your first over and under purchase, that would be ideal. During tuition I tried a number of shotguns, whilst shooting clays, but it was a challenge to decide whether I warmed to some because I shot better on the day and how much that had to do with the gun!
Post #681582 25th Jan 2018 1:27pm
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hank



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Can anybody recommend a UK gunsmith? (Or other recommendations?)

I have a few shotguns, among which is a Gallyon 12 gauge boxlock ejector, made in 1898 but it has a split in the stock. Would be lovely to get it up and running again


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Post #681589 25th Jan 2018 2:06pm
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Lightningtweeds



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May be a bit far for you but i use Scotlands finest gunmaker Andy Coull at Auchterhouse near Dundee. I think he trades under Osborne Guns.
Post #681591 25th Jan 2018 3:15pm
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Paul K



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Here in Oregon, this is the best way to prevent your Landy from being stolen...


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Even though gun laws are stricter here now, there are still guns EVERYWHERE.

That said, I do miss driven grouse & pheasant shooting, and lamping foxes.
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Lightningtweeds



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Hi Paul.. there is zero need for assault rifles here and i wish America was the same.
Post #681604 25th Jan 2018 4:19pm
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Paul K



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A lot of people feel that way here too. They are silly cheap- mine was over $1,000 but you can buy one for $400- and even without a ‘bump stock’ you can rapid-fire quite quickly, especially with a drum magazine. Every time the government threatens to ‘outlaw’ them, sales go through the roof. They are a lot of fun to shoot, but given the choice, I’d take my .45 automatic. Only 8 rounds but more fun & without the stigma.
Post #681608 25th Jan 2018 4:36pm
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Chopperone



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Quite a number of questions to offer some answers to.....

We are running out of gunsmiths in the UK , however, you should try & support your local Gun shop/ dealer.
There are still quite a number of stockers who will do repairs etc.
Wisemans of Cannock do a lot of repair work for example.

First o/u......depends on what you want to do with it & budget but for general all round use it wants to be multichoke , barrels no longer than 30”, auto safe and most importantly fitted to you.
Don’t have an adjustable comb raiser - that’s like have elasticated trousers.
Sporter or Field is down to personal choice - 3 x main differences- Sporters tend to be heavier, have manual safety & wider ribs. As an all rounder l would pick a Field gun first of all.

Assault rifles....like many things in this life - things that are used & abused by a few ruin it for the vast majority who
Behave sensibly.
The importation of bump stocks to the UK has just been implemented, however, we only have .22 semi automatic rifles here.
So they don’t really apply & I have never seen one for sale nor know of any supplier I could have got one from.
However using a rubber band attached to the trigger works equally well. Not sure how you can ban rubber bands. May your life be like toilet paper ; long & useful.
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stanley



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Took the youngster up for the last 3 drives on Saturday , just for her to experience the day . Very pleased with her although nothing for her to pick, she took it all in her stride and even help with the lunch pre wash! Lots more training during the closed season but I’m looking forward to the ups and downs of her continued training !



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Post #681928 26th Jan 2018 7:00pm
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Doc P



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hank wrote:
Can anybody recommend a UK gunsmith? (Or other recommendations?)

I have a few shotguns, among which is a Gallyon 12 gauge boxlock ejector, made in 1898 but it has a split in the stock. Would be lovely to get it up and running again


Midcounties Blacking in Lichfield are good. They’d recondition your gun and I suspect repair the stock (if not financially viable they’d be honest about it too). Bit of a jaunt for you mind, but I get the impression they know their guns.

Ask for Darren. 01543 679599
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Chopperone



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Doc - you are right about Mid Counties .
They have a lot on at the moment so you might find some long delays - best check before send them
Anything
Guy May your life be like toilet paper ; long & useful.
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