Hello

As you know ive done a lot of testing on the new 07 puma engine and also a lot of diagnostic work to try and determine some of the basic running faults some of you have on your cars even still in standard form.

Ive been looking for some time now at the EGR valve and its actuation and control even down to its insides to try and work out why so many have EGR faults that dont seem to go away even when some of the dealers say its fine.

Ive striped some valves i have removed for testing to try and locate component failure and try and find a common cause.


Ive now made a some stainess blanking plates for developing and diagnositc purposes only.
i have fitted a few to various cars showing various running problems also in various states of tune with mixed results.

What im offering here is about 15 or so FREE blanking plates for you to fit your self to your cars in exchange for the results posted on the forum so i can detirmine if these plates will help with any of the various problems people are having with there cars.

There are a couple of clauses i need to add to this because im giving this plate away for FREE

1st I will not be held responsible for any warranty claims made by landrover or buy your self towards me

2nd I will not be held responsible for any running problems you may or may not have because of fitting the plate to your cars.

3rd This plate is provided to you for developement reasons and i wont be held responsible for any emmisons related or emmisions laws we have to abide by.
This car/engine was designed to a specific sesification regarding emminsion so you fit this AT YOUR OWN RISK.

4th If possibile can you please vote in the poll and give forum post on your findings after fitting stating your year and model of Defender and its type of use it has.

EG 07 90inch General use car.

5th To get the plate sent out to you i will need some details one per owner please, i would like to know for my records , FULL registration and chassis number and also the model and its general use.
I ask for this in PM please so it will save me reading all the posts made to gain the data i want for the test.

After sending me the plate request in PM can you post in the thread your car details etc , then repost after fitting with your results

Regards pete

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Here are some pictures taken by Verdone when he fitted his test EGR plate i sent him.
Id like to thank Verdone for these pictures and the time he has taken to fit the kit for testing purposes which we will all benifit from.

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After fitting the rumble noice when its idling is gone so thats huge improvement because that didnt sound healthy

The installation itself is quite easy, it can be narrow to put ur hands in some places but all in all when ur with two i think i did it in an hour and im no mechanic at all

The only problem i have now is the yellow check ur engine light that has come one but i will try to get something so i can read out the fault on the ecu and tell u what it is


All in all for now i'm quite happy with it aswell as the decat i installed from Pete


Greetings Verdone

Thank you for your post Verdone , i have another car coming in on wednesday for some more developement work/improvement so i will make the same fitting to this car and posts its results.

Im glad the plate seems to have stoped your running/rumble noise problem , but im not so glad your engine management lamp has come on. "This is part of developement i suppose"


Regards Pete
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Fitted mine along with the de-cat exhaust on Sunday. The Red Dwarf is going to Aberdeen tomorrow and back Friday So that should give the bitch a good work out. Well it will if she makes it

AndrewS wrote:

Fitted mine along with the de-cat exhaust on Sunday. The Red Dwarf is going to Aberdeen tomorrow and back Friday So that should give the bitch a good work out. Well it will if she makes it

Pete, I've just fitted the EGR blanking and it has solved the problem I had . To recap for everyone’s benefit as it may be happening to your engine but you’re just living with it. My TDCi Defender has now done 20k so probably one of the higher mileage ones, when I got it new the engine was lovely and smooth and reasonably quiet (as quiet as a tranny engine can be) but in the last 2 to 5k miles the engine seemed to be getting louder at particular cruising speeds, quite noticeable to me. I would say an easy way to spot the problem I had is to listen to the intake sound on the side of the wing, this should sound like its sucking air but should not be too excessive.

Since fitting the plate all the symptoms have disappeared and there are no warning lights (engine management) on the dash.

I will report again once I’ve measured a tank of fuel, I usually get quite high consumption anyway because of the 70k commute to work, this is usually 33-34mpg, anything over that would be brilliant. I have read that after transit drivers have fitted the plates they are returning another 5mpg, maybe wishful thinking but I’ll soon find out.

Thanks again Pete, hope to see you later in the year as mentioned on the phone.


PS when refitting the four bolts as in the pictures above, don't tighten one side (exhaust or intake) until you have all four bolts fitted loosely. I made the mistake of tightening the exhaust side up before fitting the intake bolts, they wouldn’t line up properly until I loosened the exhaust bolts.

mrwoo wrote:

Pete, I've just fitted the EGR blanking and it has solved the problem I had . To recap for everyone’s benefit as it may be happening to your engine but you’re just living with it. My TDCi Defender has now done 20k so probably one of the higher mileage ones, when I got it new the engine was lovely and smooth and reasonably quiet (as quiet as a tranny engine can be) but in the last 2 to 5k miles the engine seemed to be getting louder at particular cruising speeds, quite noticeable to me. I would say an easy way to spot the problem I had is to listen to the intake sound on the side of the wing, this should sound like its sucking air but should not be too excessive.

Since fitting the plate all the symptoms have disappeared and there are no warning lights (engine management) on the dash.

I will report again once I’ve measured a tank of fuel, I usually get quite high consumption anyway because of the 70k commute to work, this is usually 33-34mpg, anything over that would be brilliant. I have read that after transit drivers have fitted the plates they are returning another 5mpg, maybe wishful thinking but I’ll soon find out.

Thanks again Pete, hope to see you later in the year as mentioned on the phone.


PS when refitting the four bolts as in the pictures above, don't tighten one side (exhaust or intake) until you have all four bolts fitted loosely. I made the mistake of tightening the exhaust side up before fitting the intake bolts, they wouldn’t line up properly until I loosened the exhaust bolts.

Thanks for the post mrwoo and im glad it seems to have cured your problem with no engine lamps on

Lets hope it stays like that and all is sweet with it for many miles to come.

My Developement car did not come in today as planned so i didnt make the measurements i intended, hopefully i will make over the next few days and post the results.

It does seem funny as to why some cars respond good and some dont even why some respond good at first then flag a fault.
Suppose that is testing lol.

Im looking into getting some "cheaper sort of after market diagnostic tools" if anyone is intrested , ill also post the results in due course.
It will be something very simple and basic but should read the engine faults and sensors.


Regards and thanks so far to all

Pete
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Just to let everyone know, my engine management light has now come on (after around 20miles). The original problem is still cured though just have the light on now.

Thanks Rich

mrwoo wrote:

Just to let everyone know, my engine management light has now come on (after around 20miles). The original problem is still cured though just have the light on now.

Thanks Rich

bell-auto-services wrote:

mrwoo wrote:

Just to let everyone know, my engine management light has now come on (after around 20miles). The original problem is still cured though just have the light on now.

Thanks Rich

HUMM , i think i need to relook at the location of he plate,may be the faults are fixed as expected but the plate is causing other issuses.

mrwoo, is it possibile you have time to remove the plate and make some driving cycles with the engine to see if he lamp extingushises its self ?

It may take a couple of small drives to clear just as its done to come on.

Regards Pete

It should clear any non perminant faults after 3 driving cycles.

On the very odd occasion this is not the case, i will make more tests to my developement car today when it arrives.

Saying that , if the fault was seen by the dealer they may replace the egr that is probabaly needed anyway lol

regards pete
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CarlS left this morning at 06.00 drove to Scunthorpe then up to Newcastle Edinburgh and he is just going round the Dundee by-pass and all is well. MPG is up as well

AndrewS wrote:

CarlS left this morning at 06.00 drove to Scunthorpe then up to Newcastle Edinburgh and he is just going round the Dundee by-pass and all is well. MPG is up as well