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| Orangesofa Member Since: 10 Oct 2014 Location: Somerset Posts: 214   
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Before I get told about the raft of previous threads on the topic, this is a specific question (or two).
I would like to get my wheel arch spats/brows (whatever you want to call them) in body colour but am slightly concerned that they are very flexible which might result in paint cracking and flaking. I have a Dec 2013 2.2 Puma and if you press the arch in the middle (12 o'clock) you can very easily compress it by a good two inches - enough to cause issues with the paint I would imagine. Do I have especially flexible arches or is this normal and does paint on them adhere okay and perhaps more importantly, does it stay put when the arch flexes? Second question is with regards to painting the grill and headlamp surrounds. I'd like to go glossy but a mate had a look and more to the point, a touch and suggested that the prep work to get it smooth enough for a good gloss finish would be onerous to say the least. They are not far off the smoothness of sandpaper in the 'out of the factory' guise and would require a lot of sanding, filling or many coats of paint to even begin looking smooth. Any suggestions/advice? Phil Last edited by Orangesofa on 5th Mar 2015 7:42pm. Edited 2 times in total |
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5th Mar 2015 6:54pm |
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| watts Member Since: 01 Feb 2015 Location: Somerset Posts: 71 
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Pretty sure these at Urban Truck are sprayed XS panels:
http://www.urban-truck.com/store/p140/GLOS..._LOOK.html My dealer is spraying the grill and surrounds for me, due to collect next month, I will let know how it looks!  |
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5th Mar 2015 7:10pm |
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| SailingTom Member Since: 19 Nov 2013 Location: ESSEX Posts: 1709
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I had a set painted if you look in my thread. They didnt have any cracks when I just sold it, admittedly had them done by a professional but were perfect, even the same colour as yours
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5th Mar 2015 7:27pm |
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| x-isle Member Since: 26 May 2011 Location: Midlands Posts: 1327  
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Paint is pretty flexible. Just don't overdo it on the thickness.
Rub them down a bit and then use a etching primer before spraying them It's what I used to do to spats on my race Mini and they used to take a lot of knocks and not flake off. The etching primer can also help make things a bit smoother too Craig Rogers 2007 Puma 110 XS 2011 Evoque Coupe Dynamic Lux www.craigrogers.photography |
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5th Mar 2015 7:38pm |
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| Orangesofa Member Since: 10 Oct 2014 Location: Somerset Posts: 214
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Those would have done very nicely.... My mate happens to own a body shop and didn't look too keen on the 'Mate's Rates' idea when he saw the amount of prep on the grille but didn't turn his nose up at the arches. However, we both sucked a bit of air through our teeth when we were studying the flexing 'problem' and questioned whether painting them would be a wise move - hence the question. So Tom, were yours quite flexible too? Phil |
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5th Mar 2015 7:48pm |
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| bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3247  
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Hi Phil
I have a couple of sets of plastic spats here and none seem as flexible as you say. Are yours the smooth plastic type (same as in ST's picture) or are they the ones they used to do with a slightly textured finish ? If the latter then they will be pretty flexible if I remember correctly. Bob 2015 Jaguar XE240 R Sport - goes like ....... !! 2013 Defender 90 CSW - sold 2009 Defender 110 Double Cab - sold 2001 TD5 90 CSW - offroad project - sold to a forum member 2011 Porsche Boxster - for the sunny days ! |
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5th Mar 2015 7:56pm |
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| Orangesofa Member Since: 10 Oct 2014 Location: Somerset Posts: 214
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Hi Bob
They are actually smooth and worryingly flexible. Perhaps I should go 'prodding' when I next see a Defender with body colour arches to see if I have a problem in the making. Phil |
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5th Mar 2015 8:12pm |
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| SailingTom Member Since: 19 Nov 2013 Location: ESSEX Posts: 1709
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They were just standard ones so yes pretty bendy, easiest to get a set that are colour coded even if its wrong (mine were white new take offs) as theres something to key to and your mate will like it more as a bit easier
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5th Mar 2015 10:21pm |
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| grafty99 Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: North Devon Posts: 4784 
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When getting them painted, ask for a good quality plastic adhesion promoter to be used first and flexible additive to be added to the paint, shouldn't crack or flake off then
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5th Mar 2015 10:32pm |
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| shaggydog Member Since: 12 Aug 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 3346 
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Mine are 23 years old and just as flexible as modern ones and the paint is still fine from the factory.
The only cracks on it are from where the environment agency used them as bumpers 
As long as you prepare them properly all will be well! Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197 Self confessed mileage hunter  |
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5th Mar 2015 10:35pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3707 
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I have had loads of them painted over the years, and had no problems. FYI you can buy them in primer it you want. 130's have feeling's as well you know
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6th Mar 2015 9:31am |
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| jimbob7 Member Since: 06 Jul 2013 Location: uk Posts: 2055 |
If your colour coding I'd be inclined to take them off and give them to a (recommended) body shop,getting a good finish isn't as easy as it looks,despite what people say.Finding a good body shop is an art in itself,lol.
If your colour coding the grill/surrounds,800/1000 grit wet and dry will soon have them smooth and will save you a couple of quid at the bodyshop,I re-painted mine last year (i did my YTS painting cars) and used a fine scotch brite altho I only painted the grill satin black as they were discoloured, (not one for colour coding,lol). I think the wheel arches that are colour coded at the factory are more rigid than the pov.spec black un's,could be wrong. Click image to enlarge Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5. |
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6th Mar 2015 2:00pm |
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