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munch90



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martinfiattech wrote:
Most informative, thank you.

I plan to remove the transfer box next year to carry out the above work. I had a new shaft fitted, last year under warranty.
I wonder if you could fit a C.V. boot (cut to suit )
Around the splined shaft coupling to help keep the grease in and the dust and water out.
Has anyone tried this, I understand if you fitted this with, tie straps at 180 degree off sets the shaft would remain balanced


yep good idea about the gaiter , even rack gaiter as not many cv,s that small , don't thing I would worry about cable tie and balancing
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
It already has (or should have) an effective seal. A gaiter is unlikely to do much that the seal doesn't already do.
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munch90



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be honest I think the gaiter would be a better seal , the seal that's in there cant be that good other wise you wouldn't see the brown wear dust round inside the casing
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martinfiattech



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Does anyone know the diameter of the gearbox out put coupling. And the none splined section of the shaft. To which you could mount the gaiter on.

I plan to have a trawl thru the swag bin at work, I`am thinking a universal type C.V., steering rack or even a propshaft sliding joint gaiter would do the trick. Excuse the spelling I`am better with spanners and wires.
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ian series 1



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Precisely this!


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IMHO I can't see a gaiter doing much, as once you lube the shaft and re asemble there is a nice little black plastic collar that seals it up.
As long as it's greased it will be fine! 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered.
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ian series 1



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Bonatti Grey

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Nothing wrong with the factory cover, when it's fitted it's a good fit. 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered.
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Supacat



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Well mines recently been changed out under warranty and I'm surprised at the difference it has made.

I appear to have adapted my driving style as it got worn and made gentler and gentler gear changes to minimise the clunking.

The guy who collected it for servicing did not show it the same mechanical sympathy Laughing and found the fault straight away.

I think there's a lesson there for me!
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Caterham



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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Had my first replacement fitted under warranty at 26k miles.

Just had clutch replaced at 55k and extention shaft was bone dry with pile of rust collected in casing.

Hadn't failed but was in a sorry state.
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CatherineF



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How much is a new clutch fitted? 2015 Audi Q3 Quattro S Line Plus 184 TDI Stronic
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Supacat



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Caterham wrote:
Had my first replacement fitted under warranty at 26k miles.

Just had clutch replaced at 55k and extention shaft was bone dry with pile of rust collected in casing.

Hadn't failed but was in a sorry state.


So I'm assuming that it wasn't put in with the Weicon grease then?
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Jonno



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This is pretty shocking really. It's the first time I've read this thread and the dry shafts are just utterly ridiculous. I Presume some incompetent at LR thought as it's not a sliding spline it doesn't need lubrication....however a bit of grease will work wonders for preventing rust, which causes wear, which makes it loose which makes it wear even faster.

Inexcusable failures these "bodge" shafts between the gearbox and transfer box, they should last forever as not sliding or moving much if the splines are tight.

It's *rap like this that makes me think *od it I'll go and buy a Hilux....



Jonno
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Naks



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Took mine in for the clutch and the indie also pulled everything else out for an inspection.

Truck on 64,000km, lots of dust in the gearbox but the shaft itself is still in good nick and does not need to be replaced.

Clutch, however, is in a bad state - the small springs have pretty much collapsed. It's going to be an expensive month Neutral



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I've just had my clutch replaced at 16k miles, the springs were at least that bad.
Whilst it was out I also had the shaft replaced, I think some wires got crossed somewhere because I asked them to have a look at it and see how much wear there was, I don't think it was *too* bad (although it does rattle in your hands) but I was away and they couldn't get hold of me so put the Ashcroft one in.

Drive is so much better than it was before, it's lovely.

Cost was a bit over £1200 for parts and labour, roughly 50/50 but I haven't got the ticket in front of me.
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Is it just me or are all the photos missing?
I'm very interested as I may well be in the market for a 90 puma..... The doctors said it's OK to listen to the voices, just not to do what they tell me!
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ian series 1



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Yes, that was me!
I cleaned out my gallery, and oddly the photos from the post dissapered!
I can email you pictures of various parts etc, if you want?

Ian 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered.
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