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Nolden LED Headlights

Christmas has come early Laughing

Get ready for those dark nights. I have been doing a bit of arm wrestling with German David and in this case David lost. I am not going to mention any, errr underhand tricks that I might have had to use Whistle Please remember I am still working on my Yorkshire citizenship so underhand tactics are permitted Thumbs Up


Nolden Headlights


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Technical data:

Dimensions in mm: 177 x 152
Number of LEDs: 5 x Osram Automotive
Performance (low / high beam): 32W / 39W
Voltage: 9-32V
Lumen calculated: 1880lm / 2400lm
Measured lumen: 1550lm / 1700lm
Reference number (per headlight): 12.5
Fixing Scheme: PAR56
Approval: ECE, SAE
Windshield: UV-resistant, hard-coated polycarbonate
Housing: made in Alumium-pressure casting, light, corrosion-free
Water resistant: as IP6K9K standard, documented through 480 hours salt spray test


The measured light output is higher then most of the calculated lumen of the other LED headlights.

With an IP rating of IP6K9K it has the highest IP rating of LED headlights.

We use these headlights on one of our vehicles and they are better then the other headlights we have tried.


Normal price is 925 however with a bit of arm wrestling we have managed to get a special forum price.

Three plus sets for 550/set + 15 carriage if required

Six plus sets for 525/set + 15 carriage if required



These prices are for two headlights and include UK VAT at 20%

Limited stock and UK specification and 100% road legal.

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Post #363648 10th Oct 2014 7:56pm
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Lorryman100



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Took Brendan up on this offer and the Noldens arrived quickly and well packed. Bow down I took the opportunity today to fit them along with the new bezels from Nakatananga ( supplied by Brendan). Just been for a run in the dark to set them up and wow are they bright or what!! Was impressed with the whiteness of the light as well as the illumination in high beam compared to my other LED headlights. Apologies for the quality of the pics as I took them with my crapberry.

Low Beam


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High Beam


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Low Beam


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High Beam


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Now I just need to get around to fitting the 20" light bar I got from rustyboxx last month and I am sorted for frontal illumination. :thumbsup:

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Post #367134 25th Oct 2014 6:22pm
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mmmm tempted !

how do you take payment and how long is delivery ?

Post #367166 25th Oct 2014 8:31pm
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Brendan is in Germany just now for a couple of weeks. I ordered on the Monday and they came next day by UPS. Thumbs Up

Post #367174 25th Oct 2014 10:01pm
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landlocked



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Corris Grey

any pictures of just the front in the daylight - does the lamp stand out as different from the standard?

looking between these the trucklite and the terra firma ones but don't really want them to 'stand out' Corris Grey 110 XS SW

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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

Here is a link to a comparison test we did between Nolden and Speaker EVO. Light output strength/quality of the two is basically at par, so it is up to your individual choice based on visuals really. In below thread you will find plenty of frontal view pictures of the Nolden, including with low and high beam on.
Eric
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic21619....comparison You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507

Post #367189 26th Oct 2014 7:40am
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jomara



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Scotland 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black

Those look great Brian, how do they compare to the Speakers? I was considering picking up a set of Speaker2 lights when we are in the US over Christmas as I'm not 110% convinced with the low beam light spread with the Trucklites but might reconsider.

Thanks Eric, just answered my question at the exact moment I was asking it Thumbs Up


Cheers
John 2014 110 2.2TDCi XS Station wagon
1971 Bowler Tomcat 88 4.2 V8 Auto

Post #367190 26th Oct 2014 7:40am
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Jomara:
The US unit is LHD, not RHD. Can you adjust it easily for use in UK?

Post #367197 26th Oct 2014 8:02am
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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

^^ They are non adjustable. Either LHD or RHD. I doubt that you will be able to by LHD versions in the USA.
Further, if you buy them in the USA, you would have to make sure that they do carry the proper E marking on the lens for use in Europe. USA type approval is DOT, not E+country code, so possibly the ones sold in the USA market may not have that E marking. Even if it is the same lamp, without E marking they would be illegal for road use in Europe. Better safe than sorry, so would check.
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507

Post #367205 26th Oct 2014 9:01am
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Scotland 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black

Hi H3nry
I will need to pre order the RHD version before we leave but they're available in the JW Speaker catalogue.

Eric
There are ECE compliant LHT & RHT versions, these are the euro compliant versions which are available ex stock from JW Speaker



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Cheers
John 2014 110 2.2TDCi XS Station wagon
1971 Bowler Tomcat 88 4.2 V8 Auto

Post #367215 26th Oct 2014 10:20am
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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

As the thread has gone a bit Off Topic (remember it started about Nolden...) following quote from a USA authorized JW Speaker dealer on amazon.com....

Q:
Do you have the ECE RHT versions?
A:
North American JW speaker dealers do not have access to ECE RHT versions - only DOT. You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507

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Scotland 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black

I'll need to double check, my cousins boyfriend works in the motor trade in NH, he had made the enquiries and was told that they could special order ECE versions Confused

Thanks Eric 2014 110 2.2TDCi XS Station wagon
1971 Bowler Tomcat 88 4.2 V8 Auto

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John, they are without a doubt brighter than my first generation speakers. The light spread is as good and the high beam wins hands down over the speakers. Why not have a drive of mine in the dark so you can judge for yourself??
As I said my speakers are the first generation and I would be surprised if the new evo 2 headlights were not as bright as the Noldens.

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As Brian mentioned we are currently on our travels for a week.

As a company Barbara and I are not tied to any manufacturer but look to source what we believe is the best kit available and we import supplies into the UK from various countries ourselves. Who will be making the best LED headlights in a few years time? Who knows, but we will keep an open mind.

In my opinion the Nolden headlights are tbe best LED headlights which are road legal and currently available in the UK. We have standard LR candles fitted to our red 110, Speaker 8700, fitted to black 110 and Noldens fitted to our white 90. Last night driving on Belgium minor roads I needed the assistance of the Lazer ST4's mounted on the bumper to boost the output of the 8700's. In the white 90 I would not have needed extra lights.

Light output of the Noldens is 1700 lumens with an IP rating of 6K9K compared to the light output of the latest JWS Evo 2 of 1150 lumens and IP rating of 67.

So the Noldens are still brighter and more water proof then the new Speaker 8700 Evo 2.

To date I have not heard of any condensation or corrosion issue with Noldens unlike some other brands. I have heard of three 'issues' with Noldens headlights. Two sets apparently did not work! The vehicle wiring was incorrect, with reversed polarity on the wiring. No problem with standard filament bulbs but LEDs will not work. Swop leads over and Noldens worked fine. Other 'issue' was a Mercedes G Wagon where the auto bulb failure circuit kicked in. Resistor in the circuit and clearing the ECU of the fault codes and absolutely fine. Back up from Noldens technician was first class. To the best of my knowledge Nolden headlights have had no failures to date, be it condensation, corrosion or lights not working and am confident of good backup from the Nolden folks in Germany.

As for the price, the GBP has increased against the euro by about 15% whereas the USD has basically been stable against the GBP. We have very recently been able to negotiate a much better price on Nolden lights due to buying them in larger quantities, so have been able to pass this price advantage on.


Brendan http://www.4x4overlander.com
Brendan's phone numbers 07929 604668/01422 243966 up to about 9pm
email address brendan@4x4overlander.com

Post #367228 26th Oct 2014 12:41pm
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Eric, the measured lumen output of the Noldens is measured in a light tunnel in Germany to the best of my knowledge.

The Speaker 8700 used to quote a raw and effective lumen output, both figures being a calculation.

If you look at the JWS website now under terms and definitions you will see that JWS effective lumen output is a measurement by a photo metric device

So both figures are now measurements and so no longer comparing apples and pears.

I can only assume that both companies have used industry standards for measuring the light output of their respective headlights.

So on measured light output and IP rating the Noldens are brighter and more water proof then the Speaker 8700 Evo 2

Now if you look at the Speaker website the Evo2 fits the 2007-2014 Jeep JK. Whereas it may physically fit there are major issues with delay going from high beam to low beam and in flickering. Whilst that is not an issue with Defenders, I find it odd that an American light company can not make a headlight to work perfectly with the current American iconic 4x4 or the Jeep.


Now this thread was about Nolden headlights and I am perfectly happy for the Noldens to be compared with other LED head lights.

Currently in my opinion the Noldens are the best road legal LED headlight available in the UK when you consider light output, IP rating, warranty issues and current price.

It is perfectly possible that my opinion might change in the future as LED headlights are changing rapidly. We are not tied to any manufacturer and seek to find the best equipment in the market.

Yes we sell equipment, however we do not just rely on manufacturers figures. We actually USE the equipment on our own vehicles and make up our own mind about the equipment.


Brendan http://www.4x4overlander.com
Brendan's phone numbers 07929 604668/01422 243966 up to about 9pm
email address brendan@4x4overlander.com

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