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K9F



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big steve,

Rather than start off with the smallest size and work upwards and run an increased chance of illuminating the MIL light I took the logical step of starting off big size and working down. I have had the 18mm one fitted for nearly a couple of weeks now, no problems!
Do not expect Ferrari or Porsche like performance but you can expect a significant noise reduction in engine noise inside the vehicle. Haven't had a complete refuel yet but economy seems marginally better too. Am happy with the result so far and grateful for Robofarmer's advice when I needed it most!

Fekete decided a better option over the weekend rather than fit the EGR Valve blank was to get 'smashed' with his other half's chick mates! So no point asking him! Laughing

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I'll get it done K9.... The girls got me Censored so i never had my faculties about me Whistle NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
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K9F



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Karlos,
Next time you are forced into getting tanked up whilst playing 'Stars In Their Eyes' don't forget my invite "For tonight Mathew K9 and Fekete are going to become The Wurzels!"

'Oi got a brand new combine harvester, Oil give you the key!
C'mon now let's get together in perfect harmony!
Oi got 20 acres and you got 43....... Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter K9, You must admit Ali looks a lot sweeter once she comes from behind that curtain.....Keep your mouth shut and don't tell her Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
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K9F



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alantd wrote:
K9F - if you're changing your plate, maybe you could take some photos of the job


Fitted third from largest plate today 16mm. Took longer to load pictures than it did to do job. Sorry about quality. Best I could do.

Orientation of pictures left/right hand side of engine is assuming you are FACING THE WIDSCREEN FROM FRONT OF VEHICLE....

All bolts are 13mm Hex M8s.

First photo shows redundant gasket, studs and nuts (replaced with bolts) and sooted up 18mm plate I removed today.


Click image to enlarge


Right hand side of engine there is a bracket with three bolts. Undo uppermost bolt (shown with spanner fitted) to slacken off EGR Valve assembly. This will allow you sufficient slack to remove gasket and fit plate later.



Left hand side of engine, locate EGR Valve manifold branch and remove the two M8 bolts retaining gasket! (Socket shown on uppermost bolt) Originally I had to remove the studs at this juncture and replace with the two bolts supplied. Fit blanking plate of your choice.



Finish off by tightening up two blank securing bolts and supporting bolt slackened off on right hand side of engine. Happy days. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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Thanks K9, I'm going to have a go tomorrow if i fail could you pop up and help Rolling with laughter NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
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K9F



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Just for better clarification I have taken some pictures from a little further out, by cross referencing with the photos in my previous post you can see exactly where you need to be. Assuming you are at the front of the vehicle facing towards the windscreen.

Left hand side of engine....


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Right hand side of engine....

 If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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whats the best way to remove the studs ?

and which one should i fit first i know robofarmer has the 14mm on his
and by the sound of it 16mm in others

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K9F



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Stud removal was carried out using a 4 or 5mm star style socket (not hex)! You will not have enough access for the age old 'two nut method!'

As 19 mm was the general size that was deemed as functional (without the illumination of the MIL light) I could see no point at starting off with the 20mm one. I have an ITG Performance Filter fitted and I went straight for 18mm. Two weeks later with no problems I have swapped down to 16mm. Will go smaller again in a couple of weeks if the MIL light does not illuminate.

First time to remove studs, speak to Robofarmer and get it done I ripped my hands to shreds and it took over two hours, this time 20 minutes as I had the knack! Hope this helps people.

Karlos if I popped up to you we would have more chance of getting pie-eyed from alcohol abuse rather than fit the EGR Valve blank. Being pestered by 'Pat' and 'Mini Pat' as we are at her flat and I am using her 'pooter!' If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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Have fun Malc....After seeing you pics and explanation on the fit i am more confident in doing the job.....Say hi to Pat from us two Rolling with laughter NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
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K9F



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Will do Karlos,

Posted the pictures in 'layman's' terms so that those that may not be so 'technically orientated' can attempt the job with clearer guidelines! On nights tomorrow Karl, you can always give me a tinkle in the event of difficulties!
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Cheers Mal will do....just one question do you discard the gasket and fit the blank on its own Thumbs Up NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
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K9F



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Yes, discard gasket! But retain in case you need to revert back to original state at any time! As you can see from my 'sooted up' plate a gasket is not required and I had no real leaks! Unless of course you want to go 'belt and braces' buy a second gasket and fit one each side of the blank! I didn't! If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

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Cheers matey Thumbs Up NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
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As 19 mm was the general size that was deemed as functional (without the illumination of the MIL light) I could see no point at starting off with the 20mm one. I have an ITG Performance Filter fitted and I went straight for 18mm. Two weeks later with no problems I have swapped down to 16mm. Will go smaller again in a couple of weeks if the MIL light does not illuminate.


Hi K9F

do you think the air filter type as any real influence?

I have a chip where I can adjust the "the amount of fuel send by the pump" and I never had a mil light on, even on the worse case. It is probably burned.... Puma 110" SW

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