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Tank



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Scotland 2004 Defender 90 Td5 HT Zermatt Silver
Defender 90 (2004) TD5 - Front Hub
Loads of end float on one of the front hubs, I assume it's the bearings.

Kit not to expensive, is it an easy DIY job or should I take it to a 4 x 4 garage ?

Any advice appreciated.

Cheers

Duncan
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Lambley



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 90 Td5 HT Java Black
Fairly straight forward but you'll need a 52mm socket or box spanner. As long as you get all the parts (or just buy a kit) then it shouldn't take you more than an hour or so to do. I'd do both sides though to be sure.

K9f will probably be along soon with some links to follow......
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Tank



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Scotland 2004 Defender 90 Td5 HT Zermatt Silver
Cheers Lambley.

I take it the 2004 doesn't have spacers ? Haynes manual a bit confusing ?

Duncan
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Scotland 2004 Defender 90 Td5 HT Zermatt Silver
Waiting for K9f Links ?
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Click on the link to my blog at the bottom of this post. Got to "front hub seal replacement" and I've linked to an excellent YouTube tutorial. http://defender90xs.blogspot.co.uk/
Post #351909 16th Aug 2014 12:17pm
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roel



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Netherlands 2003 Defender 90 Td5 PU Caledonian Blue
I would change it to the older system without spacer between the bearings and 2 nuts with a lock ring. Works better I think. Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
2003 90 Td5 (2009-now)
Post #351915 16th Aug 2014 12:53pm
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Tank



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Scotland 2004 Defender 90 Td5 HT Zermatt Silver
Cheers Roel,

I will stick with standard for now as is it not a bit of work to change to old ones ?

Duncan
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Tank



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Scotland 2004 Defender 90 Td5 HT Zermatt Silver
Is a 52mm 1/2 socket with a breaker bar enough to get the nut off ? When putting it back on will I get enough torque from a normal torque wrench ?

Cheers

Duncan
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52mm 1/2 socket with a breaker bar enough to get the nut off ? When putting it back on will I get enough torque from a normal torque wrench ?

52mm 3/4 socket with a breaker bar 150ibf.ft or 210Nm torque
Post #352022 16th Aug 2014 9:35pm
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roel



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Netherlands 2003 Defender 90 Td5 PU Caledonian Blue
Tank wrote:
Cheers Roel,

I will stick with standard for now as is it not a bit of work to change to old ones ?

Duncan


No in fact it is less work than the new standard with the spacer in the middle as you probably need multiple spacer and try to find the right one to get the right bearing play.

With the old system with no spacer you tighten the first nut, loosen it a little and then tighten it to the right play/resistance. then you put the lock ring and the second nut and tighten it. bend the lock rig over and ready.

No mayor other parts needed just instead of the lock nut 2 flat nuts and a lock ring. Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
2003 90 Td5 (2009-now)
Post #352030 16th Aug 2014 10:10pm
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Tank



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Scotland 2004 Defender 90 Td5 HT Zermatt Silver
Censored !

I thought if I replaced everything I could use the spacer provided with the kit ? And this would give the correct float. ?

Damn ! This is proving to be harder than I thought ?

So a 3/4 inch socket then ?

Might take it to a garage ! Scared now Sad
Post #352033 16th Aug 2014 10:19pm
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Tank



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Scotland 2004 Defender 90 Td5 HT Zermatt Silver
Also are the brake calipers held on by a 12 corner hex bolt ?

Help ?
Post #352097 17th Aug 2014 11:21am
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If you use new decent (i.e. Timken) bearings chances are you won't need to change anything as the spacer is set by the tolerances in machining the hub and the bearings are made to tighter tolerances than that. However you will still need to check and be prepared for the fact that it could be out.

To change to the older system you just need to get the two lock nuts and the locking and thrust washers with your new bearing and set it up as normal. Have a look through an older parts manual and you'll see what's needed.

Calipers are a 12-point bolt, not hex. Should be Loctited.
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roel



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Netherlands 2003 Defender 90 Td5 PU Caledonian Blue
The used set is the newer system, the new set is the older system. Is it clear what I am saying as it sounds strange.


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I will reused the plate that is between the bearing and the locknut off the newer system. Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
2003 90 Td5 (2009-now)
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Tank



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Scotland 2004 Defender 90 Td5 HT Zermatt Silver
Cherrs Roel.

Gone for 2004 bearings with spacer.

Retroanaconda, will reuse the spacer and see how I go ! Fingers crossed Smile
Post #352129 17th Aug 2014 3:45pm
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