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eutek



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Spare wheel - alloy on XS?
Over the weekend I had the dealer attach an offside rear light guard, and today I noticed that it would rub against the spare wheel cover.

To my surprise, when I took off the spare wheel cover (that doubles as advertising the dealer's name) - I saw that the spare was a plain old black steel wheel! Shocked

My 110 is an XS spec with the alloy wheels... i naively assumed when I bought the truck that the spare would be the same spec wheel. I see other Defenders all over the place with alloy spares. Was this an option that one needed to specify?

I admit... I didn't look under the wheel cover, but I assumed that the spare would be alloy... surely at the amount the truck cost. Rolling Eyes
Post #30137 19th Apr 2010 7:52pm
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Cibit



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I think its an error. You should get 5 matching wheels and tyres when you buy it. Give em hell Thumbs Up 59 2.4 110 XS Utility
55 TD5 110 CSW Special Vehicle
Post #30138 19th Apr 2010 7:58pm
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Laurie



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Also the wheel nuts won't fit Shocked
Post #30139 19th Apr 2010 8:12pm
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eutek



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Really? The nuts won't fit? Well... that would not be cool if I had to use the spare.
Post #30140 19th Apr 2010 8:13pm
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You can use "alloy" wheel nuts on steel wheels, just not "steel" nuts on alloy wheels.


But a steel wheel with "alloy" nuts looks stoooopid! Whistle Whistle
Post #30141 19th Apr 2010 8:16pm
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bpman



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both of mine have 5 alloys !
Post #30146 19th Apr 2010 8:27pm
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eutek



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
I'm going to ring them tomorrow and see what they have to say. I feel really stupid for not checking before I bought the vehicle, but still...
Post #30150 19th Apr 2010 8:32pm
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Laurie



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diesel_jim wrote:
You can use "alloy" wheel nuts on steel wheels, just not "steel" nuts on alloy wheels.
But a steel wheel with "alloy" nuts looks stoooopid! Whistle Whistle

A steel wheel is located by the cones on the nuts.
Alloy nuts will not mount the wheel concentrically and will almost certainly loosen rapidly.
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mse



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You can use alloy nuts on steel wheels done it many times.

Look at the nut you will see the part is identical to the steel - in effect with the alloy nut you just get a longer round shaft for the alloy.

Ill have a pic somewhere.

On the topic of the alloy - you should get a matching set...unless of course for some reason its one of these optional delete spec things (although i cant remember it...eg: you used to be able to select a steel spare not an alloy and save ££) Mike
Post #30180 19th Apr 2010 11:29pm
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eutek



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Thanks for the help.

I did see a pic of the truck before it got to this dealer, and it had an alloy spare at the time, so I'll have a word with the dealer today and see how it goes.
Post #30187 20th Apr 2010 6:27am
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K9F



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Laurie wrote:
Alloy nuts will not mount the wheel concentrically and will almost certainly loosen rapidly.


I also had a set of five Boosts with my 90XS.
Just recently had this very issue when swapping Boosts for Mach 5's. Alloy nuts WILL mount steel wheels concentrically as they still have the 45 degree chamfer machined in them. They should however only be used as 'a get you home option' and not for a prolonged period of time.
Alloy nuts on steel wheels do look daft but I didn't have the foresight to consider this when ordering wheels and had no other option for a couple of days.

Until receiving a set of these...

 If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

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I wonder who does have your alloy spare Whistle 2.4 90 XS
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K9F



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Grockle wrote:
I wonder who does have your alloy spare Whistle


My money's probably on some scrote that works in the dealership I reckon!!!! There'll be several other customers in the same boat, at least another three anyway! Banging Head If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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eutek



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Well... I called and spoke to the salesman who sold me the truck, he tried to fob me off with "of course, they all ship with steel wheels, but they can be used as a spare". Shocked

Wasn't buying it, told me I'd seen the car and pics of the car with the alloy wheel, etc. He said that he'd speak to the service manager to see if they can sort something out.

I'm waiting to hear back.
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eutek wrote:
he tried to fob me off with "of course, they all ship with steel wheels..."


My 110 XS has five boost alloys i.e. the spare is an alloy, NOT steel! He's bricking it and trying to fob you off.
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