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ibexman



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Front springs for winch
Will I need new springs if I fit a winch and bumper Whistle
Post #349716 5th Aug 2014 7:54pm
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roel



Member Since: 08 Aug 2009
Location: Lelystad
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Netherlands 2003 Defender 90 Td5 PU Caledonian Blue
I use the same springs in the front than the standard rear springs 275 lbs/inch?
With the standard spring rate I hit the bumpstops very often. Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
2003 90 Td5 (2009-now)
Post #349747 5th Aug 2014 9:03pm
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Waldo



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Pretty sure I'm running standard springs on mine and I've just remounted my bumper with no perceptible change in handling or the way the vehicle sits.

Will Defender 90 XS TD5 (03 Reg)
Post #349750 5th Aug 2014 9:09pm
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Lou Sparts



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Zambezi Silver
When I fitted a winch to my former 300 Tdi the front end dropped by an inch or so so I fitted standard 90 rear springs, apparently these are the same as heavy duty front springs. Ride height was restored and you hardly knew the extra weight was there. 2005 Td5 90 XS

Steve
Post #349760 5th Aug 2014 9:40pm
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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
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2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
you will get away with std springs but they will sag quicker with time due to extra weight. depending on usage you will prob get 3-4yrs from them as they are.

when the time comes you can always fit 90 HD rears in the front when it does sag Cheers

James
110 XS Utility
130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
Post #349764 5th Aug 2014 9:46pm
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Jonno1968



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Orkney Grey
I measured the height of my wheel arch before and after fitting and there was no difference but that said i didnt re measure after driving. The post before me may have a point about increased sag/wear over time but i think its so marginal that it could depend on lots of other driving wear and tear.
Post #349775 5th Aug 2014 9:54pm
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jst



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2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
it also depends on what winch and rope is fitted. Cheers

James
110 XS Utility
130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
Post #349776 5th Aug 2014 9:56pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
My 110 DCPU has a D44 winch bumper (heavy) with a Superwinch Husky with steel rope and is on standard springs with no problems at all.
Post #349793 5th Aug 2014 10:35pm
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landy andy



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2006 Defender 110 Td5 USW Zermatt Silver
My 110DCPU with D44 heavy winch bumper, goodwinch and plasma, is on standard springs , and is sitting noticeably lower.

Andy
Post #349805 5th Aug 2014 11:00pm
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ken



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New 26miles old

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Post #349840 6th Aug 2014 7:24am
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roel



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Netherlands 2003 Defender 90 Td5 PU Caledonian Blue
Jonno1968 wrote:
I measured the height of my wheel arch before and after fitting and there was no difference but that said i didnt re measure after driving. The post before me may have a point about increased sag/wear over time but i think its so marginal that it could depend on lots of other driving wear and tear.


I guess your winch bumber and winch with steel cable will easily be 100 lbs heavier than your standard bumper so with standard springs 225lbs/inch each It would have gone down about a quarter off an inch.
I think my set-up is a bit heavier and the height was not my main problem. The problem was charging up a hill like this:


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At the start off the hill I hit the bumpstops hard with the standard spring with the 275 lbs/inch springs that is a lot less. Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
2003 90 Td5 (2009-now)
Post #349843 6th Aug 2014 7:37am
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excossack



Member Since: 22 Feb 2012
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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
What did you decide on? I am looking at new springs and shocks for my 110 with winch fitted with steel wire. Most months I carry kit in the back mainly for car rallies(tools, extinguishers, recovery gear, chains etc) and tow a Harvey frost crane 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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