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B4Lamb



Member Since: 21 Mar 2015
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Wales 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Galway Green
bell-auto-services wrote:
From experience I have found when the old VCV is removed their is nothing to see in most cases, infact it looks like new with no marks or scuffs etc etc and if you didnt know by looking at it it would look new and normal.

I can only arruse the internals that cant be seen are the failing part.

pete


That is not my experience Pete. The VCV removed from my 2.4 Puma engine and that from another member HelmutK who examined their VCV internals in the last few days confirmed similar degradation of the mirror polished surface of the piston on part of its circumference. I provided a write up of my findings above.

Cheers, John "You are never to old to learn something new"
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zsd-puma



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B4Lamb wrote:
zsd-puma wrote:
Same Denso part number as the one i've ordered then. Chances are it comes with the gaskets and seals but they're not pictured, will find out when it turns up.


I kept the old gasket and large corner seal 'O' ring and they look good to reuse so if you need them I could pop them in an envelope for you. Let me know?

B4lamb


Just to confirm my valve arrived complete with O-ring seals, gasket, screws and those rubber things.

It's Nissan boxed but the same part number on the valve.

I can only assume the rubber things are for plugging a pipe or something. Perhaps on what ever Nissan these are used on you have to remove a fuel line or something for access.
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ROBBONTHEROCK



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Was it much cheaper than the LR ones?

Cheers
Andy
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B4Lamb



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Much cheaper Andy!! LR are taking the Censored with their spares pricing, like 3 times the cost. How do they justify that?

John "You are never to old to learn something new"
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ROBBONTHEROCK



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Awesome, great job.

Care to share the p/n and shop?

Cheers
Andy
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B4Lamb



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https://www.pfjones.co.uk/294009-0260-ford...-0260.html

Andy, go back up through the thread and find zsd-Puma posts, he found the same part from PF Jones for 54.60 including postage. That's his URL link I've pasted above.

John "You are never to old to learn something new"
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zsd-puma



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B4Lamb wrote:
Much cheaper Andy!! LR are taking the Censored with their spares pricing, like 3 times the cost. How do they justify that?

John


I expect, Denso are selling them to Ford, then Ford are selling them to LR, then LR selling them to their dealers, then the dealers selling them to you....

Even from LR they're a bargain compared to the Genuine Injector washers.... Laughing

Reading on the Transit forums the Pressure releif valve's also fail too, the springs in them go weak - not the pressure switch as someone mentioned earlier on.
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OleDave



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Hi Guys I have been watching all the posting with interest, do any of you guys have the Denso or Ford part number to hand for the suction control valve (VCV ) for the 2.4 Puma, I am ready to have mine out and tease the old one with a big sledge for all the trouble its given me.

I did have the part number but cannot put my hand on it at the moment, I have put it safe somewhere? it cut out this week and stalled, then ran as rough as a badgers butt, the weather is obviously inhibiting it working smoothly, if you can supply any part number it would save me crawling under the bonnet again and getting soaking wet, its pouring down again!!!

Regards

Ole Dave
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LandRoverAnorak



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Take a look at this thread:

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic25121.html?highlight=vcv Darren

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Post #603884 22nd Feb 2017 12:21pm
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zsd-puma



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OleDave wrote:
Hi Guys I have been watching all the posting with interest, do any of you guys have the Denso or Ford part number to hand for the suction control valve (VCV ) for the 2.4 Puma, I am ready to have mine out and tease the old one with a big sledge for all the trouble its given me.

I did have the part number but cannot put my hand on it at the moment, I have put it safe somewhere? it cut out this week and stalled, then ran as rough as a badgers butt, the weather is obviously inhibiting it working smoothly, if you can supply any part number it would save me crawling under the bonnet again and getting soaking wet, its pouring down again!!!

Regards

Ole Dave


3 posts up,

https://www.pfjones.co.uk/294009-0260-ford...-0260.html

I just bought that, less than half the price delivered than Ford or Land Rover can supply them for!
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OleDave



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Hi LandroverAnorak, many thanks for the thread, have checked and the one thread took me to ebay and a very delightful price for a Suction control valve of 36.00 with warrenty, believe this its also fitted to a 1.7 Corsa plus the 2.4 Puma Defender !!! after confirmation of part numbers will be contacting them, thanks to all, this site Is great and thanks guys for your help!!!

Very Happy Ole Dave

Very Happy
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zsd-puma



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Is the warranty worth the paper it's written on? Always a risk with ebay, it might not even be a genuine Denso part.

So long as its a reputable company selling it then it should be fine.

I went with PF Jones as they're a long estabished Diesel and towbar specialist, i'm confident i can get a refund if the part fails.
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custom90



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Aftermarket parts can work out perfectly but you have to be very careful and picky.

As I mentioned before I have a Borg & Beck Waterpump which is a direct fit for 70 off eBay compared to LR's at around 350 exc fitting.
I was quoted 540 for the whole job, in the end I did it myself for no more than 150.

However, this is a physical part and is in no way tied with the electronics side.
It could be possible that you would have real problems if a part was.
However, that depends exactly on what item to which it is concerned.

With the VCV I'd definitely consider it carefully. (Which most of you seem to be doing which is great). Diesels Lives Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️
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Post #603941 22nd Feb 2017 5:49pm
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OleDave



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Hi Guys, I never go for the cheapest, I always go middle of the road on just about everything, so I will choose a part mid way as I have made that mistake in the past and regretted it, cheap is not always wise, I am very wary now of silly prices but from experience I know that LR parts are overpriced and you can get an identical part 50% cheaper by shopping around. If LR are anything like the company I worked for, they bought in a lot of equipment and sold it on at an is inflated prices, at least 100% more than they paid for it!!!

Regards

Ole Dave
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zsd-puma



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Its just with LR stuuf often there isn't a mid way.

Its either really cheap, slighlt more expensive or really really really expensive. Laughing
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