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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2725  
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the 110 has recently been clunking A LOT and it seems to be getting worse. Used to just be on bad gear changes but happens a lot more now.
Got under the car (wheels on the ground, so no turning them) and felt the front prop shaft. It spins a lot(80-90 degrees?) (not play in the UJs, but the shaft actually turning in both the the diff end and the transfer box end. I've attached a video of the prop shaft and the noise that i get when driving around: http://s1340.photobucket.com/user/davidwhi...e.mp4.html What could be the problem? The rear has only a few degrees of play which seems fine but the front is really very bad it seems. Thanks in advance guys Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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17th Jun 2014 9:52pm |
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| LR90XS2011 Member Since: 05 Apr 2011 Location: bickenhill Posts: 3616 
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David
Bad news I think mate, looks like a knackered diff to me, speak to Ashcroft, loads of threads on here re front diff woes, don't drive it more than you need to, if it fails it could cause an accident and/or more damage!! have you got a warranty? Also were you not about to do a service, the oil coming out will probably contain evidence of failure DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS, I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy |
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18th Jun 2014 6:16am |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5425 
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What age is it? If before 10 reg it will be the weaker two pin diff.
Andy |
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18th Jun 2014 8:27am |
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| Marky Boy Member Since: 25 Oct 2013 Location: Maidenhead Posts: 96
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Hi all,
Can you advise if the diff etc. from a MY04 TD5 is the same as I have the same symptoms as David. Its got 53K on the clock and fine when cold but as soon as its up to temperature exhibits a real clunk when taking up drive etc. With the wheels on the ground I am able to turn the front prop just like the one shown in the video while the rear has vitrually no movement to speak of. Cheers |
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18th Jun 2014 1:23pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19626
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Make sure the hand brake is off before checking the rear..
But don't get under it unless fully secured first. |
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18th Jun 2014 1:43pm |
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| Marky Boy Member Since: 25 Oct 2013 Location: Maidenhead Posts: 96
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Ah ! Hadnt thought of that, will give it a go later, thank you.
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18th Jun 2014 1:45pm |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2725
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Yep, diff it appears to be
Spoke to a Land Rover mechanic 'off the record' and he says the same - fit a HD one. Will speak to ashcrofts and see what their advice is too. Is it a DIYable job? Doesn't seem to complicated to remove half shafts, props and the open up the pinion casing? Also it seems to be affecting steering a little now, that would all agree with diff right? Feels as if it's torque steering the wrong way around corners a little. Will take it slow! Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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18th Jun 2014 2:17pm |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2725
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Obviously undo handbrake but secure the car somehow, my front prop turns as shown in video but the rear is fine (maybe 2/3 degrees of play but seems fine. Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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18th Jun 2014 2:18pm |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2725
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It's a 2010 ('10 plate) Can you briefly explain the difference? How do I tell which I have? Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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18th Jun 2014 2:28pm |
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| Weston18 Member Since: 20 Oct 2013 Location: Norhamptonshire Posts: 93  
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Yes David it is very do-able for the home mechanic.
1. Prop off 2. Support vehicle with front wheels off the floor and remove them. 3. Remove rear steering drag bar. 4. Remove Filler bung, Drain oil. 5. I remove the swivel cups from the axle (easiest way) Pull them out so the shafts disengage from the diff. 6. Undo all the diff to axle casing nuts and remove. It is heavy so be careful. Easily done within a day. Goodluck |
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18th Jun 2014 3:28pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19626
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Probably cost a fortune if done at a garage?
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18th Jun 2014 3:43pm |
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| keith Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2164 
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Same excessive movement and clunking on my 2012 110 . Dealer replaced the front diff last wk , No change , exactly the same never made a differance .
Back in this week for gearbox and clutch out . |
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18th Jun 2014 3:57pm |
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| g-mack Member Since: 07 Jan 2014 Location: northumberland Posts: 1967
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dead easy if you buy the whole diff casing from them, more expensive obviously. im hoping to change mine someday for a complete front diff with ATB in it!!cost for unit is about £720 inc postage My 109 thread
my youtube channel |
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18th Jun 2014 3:58pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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What can be considered as normal play of the front and the rear propshafts? I just checked mine, and both the front and the rear I can turn by hand just about 1 cm or 1/3 of an inch.... I presume that is entirely normal, yes?
Asking because I have had a a clunk when changing gears up too, which according to dealer was due to play in halfshafts which were subsequently replaced. When the truck is cold there is not the slightest clunk anymore now, but when it has warmed up, and when I change gears up with a bit of pressure on the accelerator, there still is a slight clunk. Nothing much, but just wondering if this is just due to that little play in the propshafts? Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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