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Clutch issues
Not had any clutch issues
47%
 47%  [42]
Clutch has been changed once and no more issues
29%
 29%  [26]
I have had more than one clutch
13%
 13%  [12]
I have had more than one clutch and on going clutch issues
10%
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AndrewS



Member Since: 10 Apr 2007
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red
Defender Puma Clutch Issues
Doing a bit of research.

My 130 has had 3 clutches so far and I think its about to have another. I'm Trying to determine if there are issues with certain vehicles. My 130 has a very lumpy tick over and at around 2700rpm the engine is very very lumpy. I am wondering if this roughness has anything to do with clutch failure. In simple terms the little springs in the clutch drive flange are designed to take up the acceleration and deceleration forces to provide a smooth drive. however I am wondering if the 'torqueynes' and roughness of the engine constantly hammering fook out of the little springs is causing the clutch springs to weaken issue.
If my theory is correct this would only occur on vehicles that ran rough so in theory if you have a rough runner it will keep eating clutches until they either smooth out the engine or build stronger clutches. If you have never had a clutch issue in theory you should have no problems.


So the questions are as above.

Q Have you had no clutch issues.
Q Have you had a Clutch change followed by no more issues
Q Have you had more than one clutch
Q Have you had more than one clutch and are expecting more

Please find a picture of a Series Clutch, in a Puma the coil springs become weak and get smaller allowing tooooo much free play between the drive flange in the centre and the friction plates. This then causes rattling clunking and the delightful clank clank clank when the engine is stopped.


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Post #47109 2nd Dec 2010 6:40pm
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mick



Member Since: 08 Feb 2010
Location: Yorkshire
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England 2010 Defender 130 Puma 2.4 HCPU Rimini Red
Do they change pressure plate and flywheel as well.
Post #47111 2nd Dec 2010 6:44pm
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Lorryman100



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Not had any issues as off yet!!!! Only done 10k though.
Post #47114 2nd Dec 2010 6:56pm
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mse



Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
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United Kingdom 2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Scotia Grey
i dont think i would know what is normal with these, they all seem to have some issue - even if its a minor niggle. Mike
Post #47134 2nd Dec 2010 8:08pm
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fekete



Member Since: 24 Dec 2008
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Bonatti Grey
I've had 3 Clutches changed and since the last one no more issues.....Time will tell though Whistle NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
Post #47138 2nd Dec 2010 8:14pm
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willy eckerslike



Member Since: 15 Jun 2009
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HCPU Keswick Green
Thats what happened to mine after 30k miles, spring fell out in Dundee had to drive home to Yorkshire with intermittent clutch Sad .
Try not to change to early into 6th gear now as I think the torque judder this can produce eats the clutch springs. Original Member Pie n Pea Club.
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Post #47143 2nd Dec 2010 8:45pm
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bm52



Member Since: 04 Apr 2010
Location: Kent
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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Havana
i'll abstain from this one. Don't want to tempt fate Whistle BM52
Post #47145 2nd Dec 2010 8:47pm
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RobKeay



Member Since: 19 Jul 2009
Location: Stafford
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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey
I have a 110 and tow alot but only done 12k so far.
Post #47158 2nd Dec 2010 9:48pm
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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
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2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
mines had two clutches fitted in one day..... i think they just got the first one wrong.

Engine is fine and not lumpy and problem has gone since the new clutch was gone. Cheers

James
110 XS Utility
130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
Post #47162 2nd Dec 2010 10:03pm
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MK



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
Going for another one. Not LRPOS this time Puma 110" SW

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Post #47178 2nd Dec 2010 11:17pm
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bpman



Member Since: 21 May 2008
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2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
do they have the same problem with transits ? or is it a different clutch ? I can't see white van man putting up with clutch issues
Post #47210 3rd Dec 2010 9:44am
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The Boy



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Rimini Red
My first Puma had two in 14k miles. My 09 has done 13k and so far so good but knowing my luck will hold out until just after the waranty runs out. Yes it is lumpy as hell!!!!!! Never been the same since the last download update but all I get is the standard answer "they all do that" Rolling Eyes
Post #47219 3rd Dec 2010 10:53am
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ralton



Member Since: 04 Feb 2010
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South Africa 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Zermatt Silver
I believe the new spec clutch is ok...
I've had 3 clutches - the first two were the old spec (Ford spec), and this third one is the new spec (Land Rover) clutch.
As a rough statement: If your clutch is 2007/2008 version, i think there is a fair chance it'll break. If it's a 2009/2010 version you'll probably be ok... www.ralton.co.za
Post #47240 3rd Dec 2010 12:57pm
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
bpman wrote:
do they have the same problem with transits ? or is it a different clutch ? I can't see white van man putting up with clutch issues


I thought (but may be wrong) that the tranny Puma has a dual-mass flywheel. If so, then the clutch will be totally different since it won't have the springs at all.
Post #47241 3rd Dec 2010 12:58pm
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MK



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
ralton wrote:
I believe the new spec clutch is ok...
I've had 3 clutches - the first two were the old spec (Ford spec), and this third one is the new spec (Land Rover) clutch.
As a rough statement: If your clutch is 2007/2008 version, i think there is a fair chance it'll break. If it's a 2009/2010 version you'll probably be ok...


Really? My third one (have it in my hands) has the Ford brand stamped.


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In this one you can see the gap between the spring and plate

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 Puma 110" SW

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