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Funkster



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What's this? Van Aaken Smartbox!?
So I worked out where the battery is on my new defender and then wondered what secrets might be lurking in the parallel box under the driver's seat...
Turns out it did have a surprise there:


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I presume that most of this is standard TD5 tech but I suspect that the Van Aaken box is an aftermarket addition of some sort.
Can anyone tell me what it does?
Google is not providing v much info!
Thanks
Miles
Post #550420 22nd Jul 2016 12:28pm
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GREENI



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It does what it says on the box!!

Unplug it and go for a drive.... see if you can tell the difference Thumbs Up
Post #550422 22nd Jul 2016 12:55pm
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dorsetsmith



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you find that it has been wired in red plug of ECU if you unplug my not start


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uk agents Van Aaken
http://www.crdtechnology.com/tag/van-aaken-diesel-smart-box/
Post #550431 22nd Jul 2016 1:17pm
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That's a cheap and cheerful/nasty way of getting more power from the engine. Like a remap in outcome but much more crude and with the potential for more things to go wrong.
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GREENI



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It's the same as the old 'Twisted' boxes, you could unplug them and you'll still be able to drive as normal..just slower.
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Funkster



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dorsetsmith wrote:
you find that it has been wired in red plug of ECU if you unplug my not start


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uk agents Van Aaken
http://www.crdtechnology.com/tag/van-aaken-diesel-smart-box/


Thanks for the Guided Tour!
Post #550454 22nd Jul 2016 2:19pm
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I wouldnt trust it.
Probably made by the company of the villain on the left in this picture, on MARS!!

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Funkster



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I'd be more worried if it was designed by the guy on the right!


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Disco_Mikey



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Scotland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Keswick Green
When you understand how "Tuning Boxes" work, you will soon remove it Wink
Post #550499 22nd Jul 2016 7:19pm
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couplands



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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 90 Td5 HT Oslo Blue
I've got the same box on my TD5. It's been on for 13 years and I haven't had any issues with it.

Sadly, whoever fitted it connected it with those loathsome click lock connectors. I've thought about taking it off and getting a proper remap, but I'd want to replace the damaged wiring loom. Not sure how easy that would be.

Cheers

Simon
Post #550557 23rd Jul 2016 7:22am
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couplands



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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 90 Td5 HT Oslo Blue
Cupboard wrote:
That's a cheap and cheerful/nasty way of getting more power from the engine. Like a remap in outcome but much more crude and with the potential for more things to go wrong.


Is there any direct experience of what goes wrong or what damage these boxes cause..?

Cheers

Simon
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Disco_Mikey



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Scotland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Keswick Green
All they do is ramp up the fuel pressure on CR engines, and inject more fuel.

Not a problem in itself, if it can introduce extra air to cope with the extra fuel. If it can't, the EGTs start to increase, which can result in melted pistons...
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Funkster



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So she's going in for a service and a few minor leak-busting tweaks tomorrow.
What to do with the magic box?!
A. Leave it as it is. The performance seems great and so why worry?
B. Remove the box. The thought of melting my new toy does not appeal!
C. Throw the box in the village pond... If it floats it be witchcraft!
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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Mine had a Van Aaken box on when I bought it. Was on it for near enough 60-70,000 miles I'm lead to believe by previous owner.

Mine came off when I got all the nice bits added with a remap to suit.

The early generation boxes all came with the scotch locks. Later ones had a pre-made loom once the plugs where readily available.
Post #551545 27th Jul 2016 11:01am
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