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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816   
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Sometimes I am tempted to go back to original, so take the Speaker 8700 EVO off and sell, and put back the SVX clear Wipacs which are now in store with the upgraded Land Rover H4 bulbs (part number VPLDV0061) . Now that I also have the Landreiziger loom installed, the light output of the Wipac/H4 combination should be even better than before. All in the spirit of keeping things original....
Mind, I love the Speakers, the light output is second to none, and the condition remains as new, no corrosion, no moisture ingress, etc. But the original looks have something going for it too I think... 
Eric Today  Click image to enlarge Before Click image to enlarge You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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9th May 2014 5:27am |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731  
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Nah - your SVX looks "hi-tec" anyway.
The Speakers suit it and, as you say, are better. Bulbs won't blow either and it's a PITA taking the lights out to change them (strictly speaking you should re-check alignment after this too). Keep the Speakers and be happy 
Matt Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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9th May 2014 5:45am |
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| RockJaw Member Since: 15 Oct 2013 Location: United States Posts: 317  
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The point really is that with the Landreiziger loom you have choices. Without the loom it is a no brainer, the LEDs are a must without rewiring. Now all you need to do is decide what your taste is and go with that. ****CENSORED**** Last edited by RockJaw on 9th May 2014 10:43am. Edited 1 time in total |
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9th May 2014 7:22am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2591  
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Keep the LEDs, dump those horrible rectangular spots and you'll have a stunning looking Def
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2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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9th May 2014 7:56am |
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| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069
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^^ wot he said or at least replace them with some nice led fogs
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9th May 2014 8:01am |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6264  
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I think you’re right the svx do suit your truck
Perhaps I can help you make your mind up? I'm prepared to offer you a spare set of bulbs in exchange for the Speakers.  |
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9th May 2014 8:01am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2591
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Eric, the DRLs in the bumper - did you install these aftermarket or is that a whole unit, i.e., bumper with integrated DRLs? --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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9th May 2014 8:05am |
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| SailingTom Member Since: 19 Nov 2013 Location: ESSEX Posts: 1709 
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+2 Remind me of my mums old volvo estate when I was little with them under the bumper 
I think other than them it looks great as isnt the most standard looking anway Defender puma dormobile camper |
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9th May 2014 8:49am |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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Naks, (and to a certain extent also BPMan
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Those "horrible rectangular spots" you mention (and bpman acknowledges) are classic looking Hella fog lamps which I think suit the Defender very well and produce a perfect fog lamp sideways light spread, and do not dazzle oncoming trafic. I would be ready to put my SVX side by side with any other Defender with LED front fogs, and see which one is better. 
Apart from the excellent functionality, this model of Hella fogs (or more often the same model spot version) is still today often in use on Classic Range Rovers, and I see them often on early Defenders or Series III vechicles too. So, it is clear that I like them a lot, actually I have three more sets of the same in storage for eventual future use.  They are excellent value for money too if you buy them on amazon.com in the USA and bring them back in your luggage.
As to your question about my DRL bumper.... It is an entire unit bought like that years ago from Alive Tuning. Again excellent quality, the inside has been Dinitrolled from new together with the rest of the truck, and can assure you, it remains as new. Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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9th May 2014 9:00am |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 
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Without causing offence or wishing to get into a heated debate, those fogs do have great functionality and you are undoubtedly their greatest advocator and ambassador, but the look and style of your headlights are insignificant in comparison.
On each of your pictures the eyes are naturally drawn to the fogs that don't look as if they belong! Your truck has the potential to have a beautiful front end presentation why blemish it with two such pig ugly warts that belong in the 70s or 80s? Bin them and get some decent aesthetically pleasing ones that will enhance the look and possibly give you equal if not better functionality. The JWS do look better too in my opinion.  If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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9th May 2014 9:17am |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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Mal, don't worry, not the slightest risk for a heated debate here....
I think the 70's or 80's look are a nice touch to even a "modern" euuhhh, .....Land Rover.
And you will surely understand the notorious French expression that Les goûts et les couleurs ne se discutent pas.
Eric Edit: if you would have interest, look here.
http://www.amazon.com/HELLA-005700881-550-...et+550+fog You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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9th May 2014 9:22am |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586 
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ericvv
KEEP THE JWS!!! my 2 cents! Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition
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9th May 2014 9:48am |
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| Birdy Member Since: 07 Oct 2011 Location: Côte d'Azur Posts: 851  
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“truck…. beautiful front end”
Oxymoron? I wanted a beautiful front end, I bought a sports car. I needed a truck, I bought a Land Rover. Some on here think you can have both, others - like me - just can’t see it. If Eric has made an effort to improve the pathetic light output of the standard lamps, fair play. I’ve just changed my bulbs to Osram thingies in an attempt to do just that, difference is marginal, though. But to bling up a Defender imagining that its appearance has been magically transformed… nah. Peter |
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9th May 2014 12:45pm |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5084  
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Keep the LED's it looks stunning.
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9th May 2014 2:36pm |
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