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custom90



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Trailer flotation tyres vs regular wheels
Anyone got any thought on the above?
Apart from the wider spread of weight over a larger surface do flotation tyres have any other advantages?
Which would you go for a regular wheel and tyre or floatation wheels and tyres? Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
Post #317296 19th Mar 2014 9:02pm
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leeds



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What is the main purpose of your vehicle?


Just remember the wider the tyre the harder the steering at low speed, also possible effect on turning circle.


Brendan
Post #317310 19th Mar 2014 9:14pm
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custom90



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Single axle I should have mentioned and mainly on road but off road rarely would be useful.
Currently looking into Ifor P6e to P8e range.
I am tending to think flotation is more off road orientated but cause more drag on road. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
Post #317313 19th Mar 2014 9:19pm
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If you mean on a trailer, floatation wheels are designed for floatation...........across soft surfaces whereas standard road tyres are for hard surfaces. The floatations will give a higher rolling resistance i.e. be harder to pull, you can pump them up when on hard ground and lessen the rolling resistance but unless you are going to be on the soft stuff for most of the time then it will be a costly gimmick, in fuel and also the cost of the tyres and rims in the first place.
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JWL - Excellent cheers mate, yes, for a trailer indeed.
I know they are for flotation purposes for soft ground but I was just wondering if there was any other advantages to them over regular wheels. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
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***Edit*** Sod the trailer (misread your post. Sorry.... Embarassed )

It will of course also depend on wheel offset. My wheels have a 10" width and it made absolutely no difference to turning circle and/or stiffness to the steering even at low speeds. With all the floods recently and the width and weight distribution you do have to be careful at speed hitting sitting water on the nearside though...Imagine it to be the same if not worse in an unladen trailer. It can dramatically improve the look (beauty of course is in the eye of the beholder) and stance of your vehicle.


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Post #317319 19th Mar 2014 9:28pm
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On a single axle trailer a wider tyre can give the trailer a little more cushion to the ride, it won't bounce as much when empty but can be affected by "tramlines" caused by heavy traffic such as on the inside lane of a lot of motorways and some major roads, this happens as they grab the road a little better. Have a look at the sort of wheels they put on modern caravans, generally the single axle caravans have taller wider tyres than double axle caravans.
Post #317322 19th Mar 2014 9:31pm
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leeds



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Ifor William 6e/8e have gross weight of 750 kg.

Ifor do have a little bit of experience with trailers! For mainly road use stick to their wheels and tyres!

We tow IW trailers and they are a good bit of kit.


Brendan
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Brendan - I intend to, just there is two wheel options on a P8 Either flotation 20.5x8x10 or road regular wheels 145/70R13
Barely any price difference between the two. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
Post #317327 19th Mar 2014 9:37pm
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I have the p6 with flotation tyres, but cannot comment on any differences, sorry.

The flotation tyres allow you to carry 750kg, but there are other option too, checkout their website.

All I can say is its a cracking little trailer and has seen a lot of action in the 3 years I've had it.
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Thumbs Up It was seeing yours that made me make my choice a while ago! You kindly put up some photos on another thread. Wink Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
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We have three Ifor William twin axle trailers all on 13" wheels using road based tyres.

The only time when one of our laden trailers might have benefitted from floatation tyres were at a rather damp show ground.

The showground workers did not want us to tow the trailers off the grass with our Defenders but would use their tractors.

Yes trailers had put depressed ruts in the ground but had not broken the surface down to mud. Along come tractor and ground crew and towed the trailer off with two deep muddy ruts. They had only forgotten one rather important matter! They had forgotten to release the hand brake on the trailer Whistle Yes they hitched it up themselves!

I think I could have got the trailer off with a lot less damage! Whistle


So if your use is mainly road based stick to road tyres.

With a 750 kg trailer if ground is exceedingly soft, unless you have loose bulk sand/earth etc you could always handball some gear off if need be.


Brendan
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I'm guessing this is really designed for floatation:



and as a bonus I think the wheels will fit your defender as well!
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custom90



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Just ordered a new Ifor, will soon be a proud owner. Mr. Green Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
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Picked it up today. Mr. Green Went for flotation tyres in the end.
Very pleased with the tyres and trailer.
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