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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731   
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Quick question - does the floor get wet continuously or do you sometimes get a waterfall onto your feet, even when the rain has stopped? Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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5th Jan 2012 12:00pm |
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| robpenrose Member Since: 15 Jan 2011 Location: Hampshire or Cornwall Posts: 338 
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when im driving in rain etc, i dont get anything coming in, when its left sitting and i come back to it, big puddle.
Never really noticed it dripping in, just find puddles. Another place it could be coming from is the fake hinge bit between the winscreen and bulkhead. cant remember whats its called Current:D4 HSE Gone: BMW Z4MC Gone: Defender TD5 90 CSW Previous: Discovery TD5 ES (Gone) |
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5th Jan 2012 12:08pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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Just asked 'cos I'm getting similar. There's loads of stuff on the forum about water ingress (if you haven't already, Google "Defender water ingress" and you'll find LR's official manual).
I've now packed kitchen roll into various nooks and crannies to find out where the water comes from. My suspects are: 1) windscreen rubber to frame seal (LR don't seal it!) 2) foam rubber seal under the windscreen gutter 3) "fake hinge" 4) various holes in bulkhead (engine compartment) that LR don't seem to care about sealing properly. 5) Clutch pedal seal in bulkhead (the water pours down the clutch pedal and spring is rusting) My window seals are okay. What I don't understand is where the water can pool up to give my "quick waterfall" down the pedal 
Matt Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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5th Jan 2012 12:20pm |
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| robpenrose Member Since: 15 Jan 2011 Location: Hampshire or Cornwall Posts: 338
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ah so yours is on the drivers side, but mine is passenger, but i guess both LHS??
The kitchen roll is a good idea though.. Current:D4 HSE Gone: BMW Z4MC Gone: Defender TD5 90 CSW Previous: Discovery TD5 ES (Gone) |
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5th Jan 2012 12:25pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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Yup - both LHS. Yours might not have a cutout for the clutch on the LHS, so that might be a clue for me
Forgot to mention, if I run out of ideas, I'm going to pack the gap under the gutter with butyl tape (leaving the foam rubber in for now) If that works I have (only) read that you can: 1) loosen the fake hinge, get someone to sit on the roof to compress the foam rubber then re-tighten the hinge 2) dig out the foam rubber and seal with Sikaflex or similar That would really be my last resort 
I am a bit reluctant to go to LR in that case as I have also read they may take the roof off and other frightening things. We shall see... Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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5th Jan 2012 12:28pm |
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| roadracingtog Member Since: 03 Nov 2011 Location: Cheshire Posts: 97 
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Just to add something to this debate. I had a mysterious puddle (
 ) in the front passenger footwell of my 110 USW (Puma). I couldn't spot where it was coming from. I switched the fresh air/recirculated air slider to fresh air the other day and water dripped onto the mat when I went round a corner. I was still puzzled though of how it was getting in.
Fast forward a few days and whilst fitting my fibreglass snow cover I noticed a pool of water at the bottom of the cavity of the air intake (i.e. beneath the wing top). I discovered a rubber plug at the base of the cavity. This plug has a fluted or tapered outlet which allows water to drain away. This plug was blocked with muddy crud. I cleared it and the cavity now drains away as it should. The consequence of this action and therefore my assumption is that this has cured the footwell puddle. It's never happened since.
I may be wrong but it does seem more than coincidental. We've certainly had more than enough rain for the puddle to have reappeared but since I unblocked the plug there's been no ingress of water. If this is the source then that's all well and good but I'm afraid I can't confirm it's route from the cavity to the cab. It may be worth checking though. |
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5th Jan 2012 12:41pm |
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| robpenrose Member Since: 15 Jan 2011 Location: Hampshire or Cornwall Posts: 338
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Thanks for the information. I will check that.
It might not be the seal, but its definately deformed and the door doesnt shut particularly well, so a new seal might help. Just not sure if its worth the +£50 + Vat compared to a cheaper alternative. Thanks Current:D4 HSE Gone: BMW Z4MC Gone: Defender TD5 90 CSW Previous: Discovery TD5 ES (Gone) |
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5th Jan 2012 6:59pm |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2557 
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Yes, definitely. Aftermarket door seals are rubbish.
Genuine is the way forward, I've just replaced both on my 90. The way I look at it, £110 for a pair of door seals every 20 years is not bad going... |
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5th Jan 2012 7:19pm |
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| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069 
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I agree, use genuine.
One thing you could try .. I used to get some water in on my td5, passenger side - it seemed to be in the curve of the door where the rubber bends, I put some grease on the rubber and that solved it .. |
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5th Jan 2012 7:41pm |
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| bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3247  
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Still trying to find somebody who has fitted the Nak seals. Expensive but if they stop the leaks and fit better than the OEM ones then I would fit them.
Bob |
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5th Jan 2012 7:46pm |
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| Zagato Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jan 2011 Location: Billingshurst West Sussex Posts: 4990
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Usual trick is to draw a line of chalk under the suspected leak points - you can easily see where the leak crosses the chalk
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5th Jan 2012 7:47pm |
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| pom Member Since: 01 Jun 2010 Location: Worcester Posts: 1343 |
message user Thelargeone on the disco3 forum he is parts manager at Yeovil and does a nice forum discount, posts the parts etc.
Pom |
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5th Jan 2012 7:48pm |
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| RRUK Site Supporter Member Since: 31 Mar 2010 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 2017
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I had less leaks in my 1979 Series 3!
 2016 D4 HSE
1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF 1982 Series 3 SWB Petrol |
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5th Jan 2012 7:59pm |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2557
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NAK seals? Care to elaborate? |
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5th Jan 2012 8:26pm |
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