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leeds



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Labour party plans for banks
Whilst I am not a big fan for our current banking system are the Labour Party plans sensible?

They are proposing that the big banks limit their branch networks and sell off some of their branch banks.

Now surely if a bank is going to be forced to sell some branches they will try and get rid of their less profitable banks. Now what is the possibility that the less profitable bank branches are in more rural areas?

Now Labour want banks to help small businesses? Hmmm now are small businesses likely to be centred in large commercial centres/ Or are they more likely to go for an area where rent and rates are lower? Which means that they are more likely to be in out of town centre locations/more rural locations. Now where will the banks more likely close their branch network?

Sounds like that is a well thought out policy there. NOT!


I was having a phone conversation with a fellow trader the other day. He had to go as his bank business relationship manager had just turned up. Only the fifth bank business relationship manager in the last 18 months!


Now I admit I am not a fan of the UK banking system, however the Labour party proposal look about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.

Sorry but a chocolate fire guard is of more use then the Labour party proposal as at least you can eat chocolate.


Brendan
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Playing to the gallery.
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Dunno who is actually in the gallery he is supposed to be playing to, as there seems to be very few people / institutions that are saying he is talking sense...

I'm not taking a political stance on this at all... just a common sense one.

Agree with Brendan... if they are forced to close branches it will be small less profitable ones ... like the ones in my small town... I already have to go into the next town to service our business account as there isn't a local Lloyds branch...

Strangely though in our small town we have 3 of the big 4 but also Santander, Yorkshire and Halifax. Seems a reasonable amount of competition to me for the population. Make any of them close and we get less choice, less competition between them and more need to burn diesel / petrol (either in train, bus or car) to travel to a branch in the next town.... Yeah, makes sense..not! Our blog - http://landytravels.com/

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It's a bad idea. Share price is low enough as it is.
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The proposal also includes a limit on the market share that each bank can have.

So, if a bank has to get rid of customers as well as branches, does that mean I may arbitrarily be removed from my current bank..?

If the banks don't have to fight for market share, then prices/charges can just rise...seems counter productive to me.

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The proposal isn't to close branches, but to sell some off to what he's called 'challenger banks'. The theory is that this will increase competition by introducing more sizeable banks to the market. In practice of course, if one of the branches sold happens to be your local one then you're unlikely to be impressed.

As with many of these things, it's clearly not thought out though. For instance, there's no indication that there are smaller companies falling over themselves to expand by buying a job lot of cast off branches from the big four. Also, this proposal seems to have completely missed the fact that it was the investmant banks, rather than the high st. operations, that caused the majority of the problems we've experienced. Darren

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Happy days, another half baked idea that will stop them getting into power. Bit like their idea on utility companies who within minutes said they would all leave britain and close up shop.
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AWOL



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couplands wrote:
So, if a bank has to get rid of customers as well as branches, does that mean I may arbitrarily be removed from my current bank..?


That's what's happening with RBS. I'm moving my accounts before the switch. Not sure where to just yet, but I'm not being shifted around without a say in the deal.
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Pam W wrote:
Dunno who is actually in the gallery he is supposed to be playing to, as there seems to be very few people / institutions that are saying he is talking sense...


I agree

A few of my friends are labour ( proper activists ) supporters and like this idea . That is the gallery he is playing to, his own party.

Me . I think it is completely flawed.
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leeds



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Well I am old enough to remember banks when they actually provided a service.

Like children's bank accounts where kids could actually take their pocket money in and save it.

Like banks who actually had a branch manager who you actually spoke to and he made a decision! Many years ago spoke to a bank manager about a business proposition, got approval and the money. Two years later went back, similiar proposition, got approval, better interest rate, so asked why and got told I had proved myself to him so was a lower risk.


These days no bank managers to make decisions but business relationship managers who change every 3- 6 months. Once had a business relations manager who 'did not understand my business'! Buy a run down property, do it up, rent it out. Not exactly rocket science or black magic.

Currently banks do not want to even consider small business proposal. Had one so called business relations manager who did not even consider a proposal, did not even listen to it. The bank is not lending money for that sort of proposal! End of story, would not even consider the merits of the proposal.


Between the Labour party politicans and the banks they have screwed up the UK economy and nothing I hear from the Labour Party or the banks are there to help small businesses.


Now one of the banks have just sent us a statement. One of our charges has gone up 50%. Now as a small business could we put up our prices by 50%? Yes we could BUT our sales are likely to plummet!




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Sorry but it's a half baked idea from the team that caused the problem in the first place and did nothing to stop the problem other to shout foul and call for as many penalties as possible.

Can you imagine Miliband or Balls standing up and telling the likes of Morrison/Tesco/Sainsbury /Mark and Spencer or any other high street chain that they have to sell off part of the group so that it increases competition. Don't make old people mad.
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Well actually the supermarkets have, in the past at least, been subject to Monopolies Commission rules, and yes, they have had to sell off or close stores as a result..... For example when Morrisons bought Safeways and wanted to move themselves into the big Safeway superstore in Ripon, they were told they had to close their town centre Morrisons store. That town centre store was sold to Sainsburys as they didn't have a store in he town up to then...Was a massive story locally at the time... Our blog - http://landytravels.com/

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A great idea the last time - proposal was to sell branches to the Co-Op Bank, headed by the Chrystal Methodist. One wife - livid
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Agree totally with Brendan. Small businesses now deal with "the Business ralationship Team" from Head Office, faceless people who dont give a s**t. Local Business Managers could listen and make suggestions, even have a friendly chat-now "Please select from the following". Sad
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