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blackwolf



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Volume Control Valve - Ford part no?
Does anyone happen to know the Ford part number for the TDCi Volume Control Valve, LR part number LR009837?

Can't seem to find it!

Thanks.
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blackwolf



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I think I've answered my own question - 6C1Q-9358-AB
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Caterham



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pretty sure that number you've quoted is an engineering number that ford will recognise and find the part for you.

.....what is it though and where is it?

I presume you're making some progress?
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blackwolf



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It is an electronically-modulated valve in the fuel pump which regulates fuel flow from the lp pump to the hp pump. When the engine isn't using much fuel it allows fuel from the lp pump output to flow to the return line, saving the energy which would otherwise be wasted in compressing it in the hp stage. When the demand for fuel increases the valve directs more fuel into the hp pump.

At present the finger of suspicion is pointing at my VCV since it is (a) easily damaged by grot and/or water in the fuel and (b) has been known to cause symptoms similar to mine (without triggering any DTCs) if it is sticking.

It is replaceable, in fact it is the only serviceable part of the pump, but is around £190 from LR, but maybe less from Ford. A new pump is over £1k from LR!
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Laurie



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My immediate thought was that it was a part for an ancient radio Rolling Eyes 
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blackwolf



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Landrover part LR009837 - £190

Ford part 1 514 885 (6C1Q 9358 AB) - £130

It's the same part!
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HardCharger



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Resurrecting this, as I have posted in a new thread, I need a new VCV for my 2011 2.4 Puma. Are these the most current part numbers? Trying to place an order and my parts guy is asking for a part number to be on the safe side.

Prompt replies most appreciated. Thanks!
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lrMike



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Blackwolf, my VCV is causing problems as well noted in another post and I am planning to replace it the soonest possible.

My only problem is getting access to the very narrow place between all those looms and hoses. What are your plans regarding installation? Since you are more technically skilled than I am it would be interesting if you could give us some insight about the steps of the replacement procedure assuming that you are not going to remove the whole fuel pump as it is proposed in the workshop manual.

Thank you for the ford part number and good luck.

Mike
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Eau02467



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In response to Jose of you looking for the part:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252433199977

Getting it out is easy if you have an Allen key with a ball on the end

Be careful to clean around it before removal to minimise the chance of dirt getting into the pump
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Eau02467



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*those of you
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agentmulder



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Just did this, can be done in situ.

The only part I removed, I did by mistake - a tube came out of the vacuum pump, nothing but air in it and area I was working in was clean so no probs.

It's the tube with the silver sheath, made it a little easier. WSM states it can be undone no issues.

I used 1/4" socket with a hex adaptor on wobble extensions and a universal. Getting the bolts out and back in is actually easy, cleaning the gasket mating face and getting the valve in with gasket and o-ring tact and clean - that's the fiddle. Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants...
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B4Lamb



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After Fitting, did you go through the calibration procedure to update the ECM or is that unnecessary if you are only changing the VCV? "You are never to old to learn something new"
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Pinky



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Just had mine done, changed the common rail sensor at the same time as I was advised to always change them as a pair. And yes, you must pilot learn after fitting. Be careful buying cheap parts as they may not pilot learn and then you're up the proverbial creek without a paddle!
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dilukabey



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Guys, what makes you to replace the vcv? As far as i know there won't be any dtc's when the vcv is malfunctioned. What are the symptoms/signs that i should change the vcv? Cheers.
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blackwolf



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Pinky wrote:
Just had mine done, changed the common rail sensor at the same time as I was advised to always change them as a pair. And yes, you must pilot learn after fitting. Be careful buying cheap parts as they may not pilot learn and then you're up the proverbial creek without a paddle!


Rolling with laughter

I'd advise that too if I was selling you the sensor!

The common rail sensor is much more reliable than the VCV. I am on VCV No 3 and still the original pressure sensor and relief valve at 203,000 miles.
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