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johnnyd

Member Since: 13 Apr 2013
Location: Chippenham
Posts: 1006

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

My 2.4 CSW XS purchase has worn track rod ends and a missing

Hi All

Just took my recent purchase in for a waxoyl, and i got a call from the garage to say the vehicle has very worn track rod ends (needs replacement) and a missing steering damper, I purchased it from someone on the forum who said it had never been off road. Are the above points indicative of anything, or normal on a 5 year old vehicle of 29,500 Miles ?

JD 2008 TDCi 2.4 XS CSW

20th Nov 2013 1:48pm

Glynparry25

Member Since: 16 Feb 2009
Location: Miserable Midlands
Posts: 3015

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS DCPU Tonga Green

No steering damper

Surely the shteering wheel was dancing around the place on uneven surfaces?

Track rod ends- mine lasted 40,000 miles but a lot of that was rough tracks- but at the same time, if it hasn't got a steering damper it would put a lot more vibrations/ stresses on them which would result in excess wear.

Glyn

20th Nov 2013 1:57pm

Caterham

Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 6265

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

missing damper...

seems strange - its not like they're hard to get hold of or cost the earth or difficult to fit?

20th Nov 2013 2:03pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 19611

Above is what I thought, how can you leave it missing.

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20th Nov 2013 2:07pm

johnnyd

Member Since: 13 Apr 2013
Location: Chippenham
Posts: 1006

Can/do they just fall off ? Could it have been removed for a reason ?

JD 2008 TDCi 2.4 XS CSW

20th Nov 2013 3:01pm

Caterham

Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 6265

they're bolted on so I doubt (anything is possible of course but I've never heard of it).

can't imagine why it wouldn't be replaced unless it was simply faulty / leaking and someone opted not to replace it?

I've also not heard of them being nicked in the middle of the night.....but once again anything is possible.

20th Nov 2013 3:14pm

westfield106

Member Since: 29 Dec 2009
Location: leeds
Posts: 58

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Stornoway Grey

Re: My 2.4 CSW XS purchase has worn track rod ends and a mis

johnnyd wrote:
Hi All

Just took my recent purchase in for a waxoyl, and i got a call from the garage to say the vehicle has very worn track rod ends (needs replacement) and a missing steering damper, I purchased it from someone on the forum who said it had never been off road. Are the above points indicative of anything, or normal on a 5 year old vehicle of 29,500 Miles ?

JD

john
i can say that whilst i owned the vehicle it had not been offroaded !!!
the steering damper was removed due to siezure and not replaced at the wifes request as she found it easier to drive without it !!! it was her daily driver not mine.
as for the worn track rod ends these were not noted on the last mot or service as requiring attention and havent caused me reason to check for wear ????

if you have any further queries then please feel free to call me on my mobile no.
john

20th Nov 2013 4:37pm

johnnyd

Member Since: 13 Apr 2013
Location: Chippenham
Posts: 1006

Hi John

OK many thanks for the update, that explains it I think, The garage were totally bemused and slightly worried as to the wear on the track rods and the lack of the damper, but i guess the lack of the damper would explain the worn track rods as some people have said here.

Best Regards

JD 2008 TDCi 2.4 XS CSW

20th Nov 2013 6:07pm

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 7700

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

i run a 90 without a steering damper, its not the end of the world as the OP has obviously noticed by not realising it wasn't there.

TREs do wear, treat them as a service item, they are cheap and easy to change. on my trayback they go on avg one every other day of use. on mainly road going vehicles you will get alot more out of them (90k on my last td5) Cheers

James
110 XS Utility
130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop

21st Nov 2013 10:28am

XS Pete

Member Since: 13 Jan 2011
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 632

2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

The steering damper on my 90 MY11 unbolted itself and fell off, and if it wasn't for the fact that I heard it hit the steering guard, I probably wouldn't have known, certainly from on road driving, there was no difference in steering feel at all.

Mine only unbolted itself at one end, but I suppose it's possible that yours may have detatched itself completely.

Pete

21st Nov 2013 10:54am

SteveG

Member Since: 29 Nov 2011
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 656

Personally, I wouldn't worry about a Defender being used off-road. A bit poor show on previous owner selling it without refitting a new steering damper though, but may have genuinely forgot about it.

Has it had brake fluid, coolant, diff oils, gearbox oils changed? I suspect not given mileage. However, if I bought this, that's what I would change along with doing an engine oil change, air filter change and finally topping up hubs and propshafts with correct grease.

That way you know you are starting ownership from a good reference point and you can then keep up good maintenance from now on. That along with regular use, should mean you have relatively trouble free use from your 90

Have fun with your new purchase.

21st Nov 2013 11:02am

familymad

Member Since: 13 Dec 2011
Location: Bucks
Posts: 3465

2016 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black

My steering damper on our 2.4 departed the vehicle on the M40 northbound. Had never been offroad!

LR fitted a new one under warranty. 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI

21st Nov 2013 4:31pm

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 7700

it would seem these are something to check then! Cheers

James
110 XS Utility
130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop

21st Nov 2013 5:15pm

johnnyd

Member Since: 13 Apr 2013
Location: Chippenham
Posts: 1006

Yeh John has contacted me to say it was just something he had forgotten about so all is good, new one fitted today with new TRE's also, and a waxoyl........Smells now ;(

JD

SteveG wrote:
Personally, I wouldn't worry about a Defender being used off-road. A bit poor show on previous owner selling it without refitting a new steering damper though, but may have genuinely forgot about it.

Has it had brake fluid, coolant, diff oils, gearbox oils changed? I suspect not given mileage. However, if I bought this, that's what I would change along with doing an engine oil change, air filter change and finally topping up hubs and propshafts with correct grease.

That way you know you are starting ownership from a good reference point and you can then keep up good maintenance from now on. That along with regular use, should mean you have relatively trouble free use from your 90

Have fun with your new purchase.

2008 TDCi 2.4 XS CSW

21st Nov 2013 8:17pm

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