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Vince



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Another security question
Hi all,

So i'm going to go and test drive an 07 90 on Sunday, I'm armed with a few things to check thanks to everyone here and already looking forward to hopefully owning it.

My next question is security and quite a common one by the looks of it - i've done a few searches and a lot of reading but would someone mind just giving me a list of potential things to think about?

I have so far:
-Door hinges - security torx bit maybe or ball bearing trick - where else do i need to think of and where on the bonnet?
-I have a good steering lock
-Tracker?
-Etching type products?


Do these come with an alarm/immobiliser as standard?
Would you put a kill switch against the fuel pump or something? (in the past i've just pulled the fuel pump fuse for an added bit of security)

Sorry i know its been covered but just want a bullet list if someone would do me the favour?

Thanks a lot.
Paul.[/i]
Post #281953 13th Nov 2013 9:06pm
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Go Beyond



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Layers:

As many as you can to slow them down or send them elsewhere:

Skytag / Tracker
X - Eng ignition lock shroud
Move alarm sounder
Additional earth internally
Additional flashing LED
ECU cage
Move diagnostic socket
Bicycle lock cable through bonnet internally
Ball bearings already mentioned
Locking wheel nuts
Security marking
Distinctive graphics
Etch windows
Removable steering wheel / steering wheel lock
FCX battery kill switch
FCX security cubby
FCX floor lok box
(Well you did ask Whistle )
Post #281957 13th Nov 2013 9:17pm
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AWOL



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Very timely topic for me as my order went in this week... I was going to ask similar so, assuming Vince doesn't mind, I'll tag my question on here.

As none of this stuff will have been done on a new vehicle, does anyone have a parts list for things such as:
Ball bearings - number (OK, I can work this bit out!) and size?
Cable lock - approx length
Internal earth - I'm assuming this is additional short (but how short?) battery lead off -ve to existing or new bolt?
etc....

Basically I'd like to spend a day taking care of the basics but without the vehicle sat in front of me it's difficult to know which parts to buy in advance.
Post #281962 13th Nov 2013 9:26pm
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Go Beyond



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Additional earth needs to come off the battery negative to a ground point within the battery box (in case battery earth is cut from outside)

Unfortunately the existing negative terminal doesn't lend itself to adding cables (difficult to explain but easy to see )

I cut mine off and fitted a new clamp on one, not sure how that would affect warranty though
Post #281963 13th Nov 2013 9:32pm
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Go Beyond



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Ball bearings are 5mm
Post #281968 13th Nov 2013 9:44pm
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Vince



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AWOL wrote:
Very timely topic for me as my order went in this week... I was going to ask similar so, assuming Vince doesn't mind, I'll tag my question on here.


More the merrier!

On the thought of ball bearings in the hinge bolts - what about instead of that or drilling them out - filling the void with solder?! - could melt the solder out if needed but should have the same effect of slowing them down.
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Go Beyond



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Or silicon or resin etc.

Do a search on security guys there's LOADs to read Thumbs Up
Post #281974 13th Nov 2013 9:54pm
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Vince



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Yes thats partially the problem - too much to read!

guess i'll make another cup of tea and settle in for the evening!
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AWOL



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Is there already a convenient ground in there, or is it out with the power drill on day one?
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Go Beyond



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There's a lovely 10mm bolt conveniently located Thumbs Up
Post #281982 13th Nov 2013 10:08pm
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TR51



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As Matt has said, layers, layers and hidden layers is the best approach!

To get you started, here's some things to think about (other manufacturers, sellers available...!):

Gear stick locks:
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17501.html?highlight=security

Door security:
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17266.html?highlight=security

Peddle locks:
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic7162.html?highlight=security

Window tinting:
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic5258.html?highlight=security

Spare wheel security:
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic19033.html?highlight=security

Trackers: Have a search... Wink

...and a big dog Thumbs Up
Post #281985 13th Nov 2013 10:13pm
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blackwolf



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Vince wrote:
On the thought of ball bearings in the hinge bolts - what about instead of that or drilling them out - filling the void with solder?! - could melt the solder out if needed but should have the same effect of slowing them down.


Solder isn't practical for many reasons, and the big advantage of the 5mm or 3/16" ball-bearing is that it cannot easily be drilled out. A cordless drill will remove the setscrew heads in seconds if the recess is simply filled.
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AWOL



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Thanks guys - that's all really good stuff. Thumbs Up

Looks like I have some shopping to do before it gets here.

Quite enjoy a bit of tinkering, so not really viewing it as too much as a hardship spending a bit of time getting the know the Landy (will be interesting to see how much has changed from my S3!).
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