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blackwolf



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This is the modification I make to my LR locking wheelnut keys.

If you look closely the key in the photos has actually split along the recess, this was the result of being used with a breaker bar to undo nuts previously tightened by a tyre fitter presumably with a windy gun. The key still works fine after modding, but is now kept as a spare.

The best tool in my opinion for undoing wheelnuts even now is one of the traditional "spider" wrenches, since it allows a true torque with no side force to be applied. Much less likely to split the key or damage the nuts.


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Post #253222 23rd Jul 2013 12:22pm
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excossack



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Thanks Blackwolf. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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I.AM_a driver



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when I bought my alloys I purchased second hand alloy wheel locking nuts from eBay- bad idea!

I now have a set of Bearmach Locking Nuts, much better design than the LR ones and many more possible combinations.

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The torque is shared by all of the tongue/grooves around the circumference, much lower chance of breaking it than when it's shared among the three points on a LR one.

Of course if someone really wants them all they need to do is hammer on a smaller socket.. Mark S
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excossack



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Cheers IAAD they look much better design than the LR ones. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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Supacat



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excossack wrote:
Thanks Blackwolf.


+1 - the simple ideas nearly always are the best. That one looks nearly foolproof Thumbs Up
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Merlin



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In my 2008 handbook says 133Nm. Seems a bit high.

I was told that's it's a waste of time putting locking wheel nuts on road wheels. So I've taken mine off, but left the spare with one. Suppose the logic is that if your jam jar is stolen, then you've lost the wheels anyway.

Merlin
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Sockpuppet



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The best locking wheel nuts I reckon are the ones fitted to my focus.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-FORD-FOC...19cb28510f

These, they are tight fitting if you ever lost the key it would be a trip to the dealers or welding to get the nut off.
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gbmud



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^^^^

Very similar to the ones fitted to our Freelander2, of which one was already badly damaged by the time we bought it at 14 months - the centre of one nut was missing as if punched through. As you say, they look most inconvenient to remove without the tool - or with a nut so damaged that the tool cannot apply much torque!

Chris
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ken



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@sock

Ditch them Thatcham ap rubbish same as current BMW fitment many master kits out there plus they shear
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excossack



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Came to use the new locking wheel nut tool for the first time and it split! Sad 1999 Defender TD5 110

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Johnnyb0



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Wheel nuts and windy guns.
Hi all, only had my Puma for a couple of months now and decided to check the security /tightness of the wheel nuts. It has SVX alloys fitted. I have a Halfords extendable wheel brace with a 27mm deep drive socket. At least two nuts on each wheel would not budge. Tried a two ft. Breaker bar and same result. It took a 3/4" 1 meter breaker bar with reducer to shift the nuts. No doubt wound on by a monkey with a windy gun at the dealers. I hate to think what I would have done if I had got a puncture? Now all torqued up to the recommended figure. Move easily with the Halfrauds wheel brace. Very Happy Just a wee note of caution if you don't do your own servicing.
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Supacat



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Hope you checked the mating faces of the wheels very carefully. I had a similar issue with a dealer after servicing and found two wheels had actually cracked.

I got the wheels replaced.
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Shep



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Are the torque figures with dry threads or lubed?

Mine were all painfully dry when i took them off, i didnt want to lube them with copper slip for obvious reasons, but it would be nice to put something on them? I used a splash of acf50, i expect the wheels to fall off at any time now Big Cry A man with no boat is a prisoner
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Lou Sparts



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There has been a debate on here before regarding whether to copper slip wheel bolt threads or not, i have always applied copper slip or similar to my wheel bolts on all makes of car and never had an issue with them.

just my personal opinion. 2005 Td5 90 XS

Steve
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Johnnyb0



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Wheel nuts.
Thanks for that Supscat. Actually, no I didn't. The old bulbs ain't what they used to be and I wasn't wearing my specs. I'll remove the wheel nuts again and inspect with a magnifying glass and bright light. Mines still under warranty so it's worth the effort. Love this site. As they say, "every day's a school day". Like to gain from the knowledge and experience of those who have tread the same path. Wink
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