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BIGFOG



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Gobsmacked by Mr Bell!!
I have been very very lucky to be one of the first recipients of Pete's latest tune - its TOTALLY incredible, I spoke to him to say big thanks and report back that it felt nothing remotely like the previous version. The reason is that this is a completely NEW Tune, blank page, ground up, totally different to the old one, bit like a new version of Windows!?!

My truck is treated with all the mods available, Cooler, Decat, Hybrid Turbo etc and went damn well with the previous tune...... BUT NOW !! I am totally blown away, where previously there were a couple of areas where the engine would pause and take a breath before carrying on, it just builds and builds revs so smooth and clean.

The torque curve is as long tall and flat as the Forth Bridge, it goes on forever - he has seen 501 nm on the rolling road he has installed to be able to re write the 'matrix' to do this.... Its a different beast entirely now, feels like three and a half litres, not two and half.... WOW Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Bow down Bow down Bow down Bow down 2009 XS 110 Utility Stornaway Grey
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bm52



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It does sound awesome, trying not to be an anorak it would be good to see the power graphs Thumbs Up BM52
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BIGFOG



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Have a word with Pete in the morning he should be able to help! There'll be no going back though - be warned!!! Laughing 2009 XS 110 Utility Stornaway Grey
BAS re Remap, BAS Turbo, BAS Spec Modified Airbox, Twisted Side exit Decat Exhaust, Allisport Cooler and Hoses, OME Sport Shocks, Kangaroo Paw Discs.
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BIGFOG



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bm52 wrote:
It does sound awesome, trying not to be an anorak it would be good to see the power graphs Thumbs Up


Where abouts in Kent are you BM? I'm near Westerham if you fancy a look!? 2009 XS 110 Utility Stornaway Grey
BAS re Remap, BAS Turbo, BAS Spec Modified Airbox, Twisted Side exit Decat Exhaust, Allisport Cooler and Hoses, OME Sport Shocks, Kangaroo Paw Discs.
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Post #233946 8th May 2013 10:11pm
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Is it a free upgrade to existing customers??? Whistle

Love my original 2.4, no egr, de-limited, BAS tune... 11/10.... Very Happy ... ,-------,
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BIGFOG



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Its not free as it really is a new map, I accepted it on spec as its an early release. I think Pete is going to be kind to existing customers however? He spent a lot on the rolling road to make it happen! And it's worth it!!!! 2009 XS 110 Utility Stornaway Grey
BAS re Remap, BAS Turbo, BAS Spec Modified Airbox, Twisted Side exit Decat Exhaust, Allisport Cooler and Hoses, OME Sport Shocks, Kangaroo Paw Discs.
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DAZ110



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This sounds interesting Thumbs Up
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bell-auto-services



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bm52 wrote:
It does sound awesome, trying not to be an anorak it would be good to see the power graphs Thumbs Up


This is a DEVELOPEMENT map and will not be for sale with this much torque YET, but a graph was done as developement was progressing, http://www.facebook.com/BASREMAPS

Pete
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Shax wrote:
Is it a free upgrade to existing customers??? Whistle

Love my original 2.4, no egr, de-limited, BAS tune... 11/10.... Very Happy


The new map will be on sale soon as a new product, the price will be small and is really to cover time spent though the gains are more that the original purchase. As Guy said its a NEW product really compared to the old tuning.

ill start a thread later today.


Pete
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I'm willing to test it in Australia for BAS to make sure it's perfect...... That is, when I get my beast back from the stealers (should be tomorrow Friday 10th) and can download the existing for Pete to work his magic on.
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bm52 wrote:
It does sound awesome, trying not to be an anorak it would be good to see the power graphs Thumbs Up


I know Pete will post a power graph soon but please remember power graphs are great but all they show is the increase in torque & BHP etc on a specific vehicle.

More importantly is how the vehicle feels and drives after the map is applied Thumbs Up and as Guy has said it pulls like a train and revs smooth and clean with a very wide torque curve Bow down

Also and importantly every Defender is slightly different and power graphs will differ from vehicle to vehicle so trying to achieve the exact same power from one Defender to the other is impossible - its the gain over the standard output that really counts and thats the bit Pete has been working on using several 2.4TDCi Defenders to perfect this process Thumbs Up

What I mean by this is that LR quote 122BHP (I think that is the correct fig) but in reality very few actually achieve that with some considerably less and some slightly more, so trying to get one that is down on std power to the same as one that is slightly up on power is not possible but the gain should be the same i.e going from 122 to 172 is 50 and thats the same as going from 110 to 160 - hope this all makes sense and I am sure Pete will be along soon to correct my ramblings Thumbs Up Gas, Grass Or Ass - Nobody Rides For Free

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A perfect summary Japseroony Thumbs Up
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Re: Gobsmacked by Mr Bell!!
BIGFOG wrote:
I have been very very lucky to be one of the first recipients of Pete's latest tune - its TOTALLY incredible, I spoke to him to say big thanks and report back that it felt nothing remotely like the previous version. The reason is that this is a completely NEW Tune, blank page, ground up, totally different to the old one, bit like a new version of Windows!?!

My truck is treated with all the mods available, Cooler, Decat, Hybrid Turbo etc and went damn well with the previous tune...... BUT NOW !! I am totally blown away, where previously there were a couple of areas where the engine would pause and take a breath before carrying on, it just builds and builds revs so smooth and clean.

The torque curve is as long tall and flat as the Forth Bridge, it goes on forever - he has seen 501 nm on the rolling road he has installed to be able to re write the 'matrix' to do this.... Its a different beast entirely now, feels like three and a half litres, not two and half.... WOW Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Bow down Bow down Bow down Bow down


I'm testing this map also, confirm at 100% and for our Puma with Hybrid turbo..... MORE TO CAME!!!! he he he Mr. Green Thumbs Up

Thank you Pete!!!!! Bow down Bow down Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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BIGFOG



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We'll have to compare notes DG Whistle
I'm in Rome next weekend for my Wife's birthday, you are welcome to gate crash us and talk tunes all night - might cost me a marriage though!! 2009 XS 110 Utility Stornaway Grey
BAS re Remap, BAS Turbo, BAS Spec Modified Airbox, Twisted Side exit Decat Exhaust, Allisport Cooler and Hoses, OME Sport Shocks, Kangaroo Paw Discs.
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