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| Green Machine Member Since: 19 Nov 2010 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1226   
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The simple answer is no. Not significantly.
What specific problems are you referring to? Certainly in terms of general fit and finish there is no significant improvement since 2007. Don't know if you are aware that Defenders are now using a new 2.2 4 cylinder diesel, rather than the 2.4 that was fitted to your 2007 model. But again, most of the reports from owners of the new 2.2 on here don't really demonstrate any significant improvement. Maybe a bit quieter, and a bit of a question mark over the Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) technology of the new ones, although no one here has had any specific problems with that as far as I'm aware. 2005 Td5 | 90 Station Wagon | Tonga Green |
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1st May 2013 11:33am |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 
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Drop a 'pm' to 'Noworries' he can knock the 60k into a cocked hat the mileage he does.
 If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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1st May 2013 11:35am |
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| Daniel TD5 Member Since: 22 Jul 2007 Location: london Posts: 97 
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my 07
went through the following 5 clutches fell apart 1 gearbox fuel system problems erg valves limp mode on most journeys erg or fuel system faults full respray rust abs faults loads of engine oil leaks all the normal stuff water in fuel from breather pipe and so on |
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1st May 2013 12:23pm |
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| ibexman Member Since: 13 Dec 2008 Location: kent Posts: 2876
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ERR no
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1st May 2013 12:37pm |
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| Daniel TD5 Member Since: 22 Jul 2007 Location: london Posts: 97
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but you did runner from your 07 before me you had a nice green td5 last time i met you how are you |
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1st May 2013 12:43pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19611
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Mine a 57 plate. Only had a diff pinion oil seal go. (Maybe my fault recovery related) and EGR valve change which had exceeded it's working lifetime anyway...
Other than that only normal maintenance items. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧 |
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1st May 2013 12:46pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16894 
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Well my 07 DC has now done 120,000 miles with only the following:-
1 clutch change 1 front diff failure 1 set rear halfshafts/drive flanges Whilst that is appreciably more parts than my TD5 Disco neede in the same mileage, I don't think it is cause for complaint. |
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1st May 2013 12:49pm |
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| barbel jim Member Since: 12 Dec 2012 Location: Northants Posts: 1411 
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The first 2.4's had a few 'lemons'. The 2.2 is a totally different set up. it is an older engine than the 2.4, but has alot of people excited by it. The usual Defender traits are still just as bad, Rust etc. Think it would be worth going and having a look and test drive. |
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1st May 2013 12:54pm |
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| ibexman Member Since: 13 Dec 2008 Location: kent Posts: 2876
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Yes Dan still got it |
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1st May 2013 1:43pm |
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| JSG Member Since: 12 Jul 2007 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2412 
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My 2011 seems very similar to my old 2007 model - no problems with either of them worth worrying about.
John
http://www.hampshire4x4response.co.uk 2011 Tdci 110 CSW XS |
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1st May 2013 3:24pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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Not sure I'm very excited about it 
To answer the OP then I would say no, I cannot see any vast improvement between the current offering and the 2007 version. They still leak, require basic rustproofing from the word go, have paintwork that marks at the merest touch of a twig, have powder coating that wants to flake off various bits with regular monotony but also have the added bonus that the ecu wants to control the revs despite driver input and are now burdened with a DPF. Steve. Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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1st May 2013 3:55pm |
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| keith Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2163 
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FFFFFFFF @#? Ok so 25 yrs and 14 LRs later and a new 2.2 2012 110 XS . I recon I'm pretty qualified to answer that question . Failed clutch , failed turbo hose , failed track rod ends x2 , failed swivel housing oil seals , supplied with no under felt or carpet , failed headlight plug , thinner chassis , panels and allround cheeper poor quality parts . Bumper is in the bin rusted away . 2.2 revving problems to tick the boxes of the EU emitions , paint quality is shocking . Just because it's got 6 gears and a cumfier seat doesn't make it a different car . A gloryfied series 3 if you ask me . If your into Landrovers then you know what your gettin - the worlds most iconic car that everyone wants , with 65yrs of inherent inbuilt problems that will never go away . Gees they've only just gave us a heater with a half deesent blower . I still love it though .
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1st May 2013 5:25pm |
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| Dieselhead Member Since: 21 Oct 2012 Location: Pulborough. West Sussex Posts: 552 |
We have an early 110 2007 at work which we have had from new.
Just given it its 24,000 service. Only problem we have had was it got stuck in 1st gear & we removed the gearbox to get it checked out by a gearbox company. I put a clutch in it as the springs were very loose
My 08 110 has just hit 58K with no probs apart from a few leaks one of which I an still chasing  Chris
2008 XS 110 2.4 Utility. Tonga Green 1953 Series 1 for restoration 1983 Mini Mayfair 2004 VW T5 Camper 2008 Diahatsu Sirion. Thats hers Classic Bolens Garden Tractors |
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1st May 2013 9:35pm |
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| Daniel TD5 Member Since: 22 Jul 2007 Location: london Posts: 97
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Well I have booked a test drive in the morning
Looking at a black 110 usw xs spec Will let you know the out come |
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17th May 2013 7:54pm |
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