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Rob



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The American don't like the DC100
why did it have to take the americans to say no to the DC100 yet we all said it was Censored but Land Rover refused to listen to us???? Shocked
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News? Linky please Thumbs Up Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
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Because the Yanks won't put up with it and live with it. Where as we over here complain and shout but in the end accept it eventually. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. β›½οΈπŸ›’οΈπŸ‘¨β€πŸ”§πŸ§°βš™οΈ RED, WHITE & BOOST! πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§
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Put up with what Question an idea, a thought, a name, there is no such thing as a DC100 only a concept.

Concept

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i like it but not as a defender replacement as an intro to the brand at about £20k Id have one for everyday use DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
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Please does someone have a link to this piece of (concrete) information that the Americans are saying "no" to the DC100. I think I missed something (more than usual)... Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
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custom90



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willy eckerslike wrote:
Put up with what Question an idea, a thought, a name, there is no such thing as a DC100 only a concept.

Concept

I mean yet. It's put forward as a possible idea & new design. If there isn't much opposition it could quickly become a reality in the future when the time comes. Personally IMHO the idea isn't a bad thing but the actual design I can't stand. It loses it squared off "simple" lines and design and looks more like an alternative to the SWB new Jap Mitsubishi Shogun. All rounded and shapely. Like the Evoque only the Evoque isn't mean't to be a workhorse / off roader so it fits in well but the DC100 doesn't. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. β›½οΈπŸ›’οΈπŸ‘¨β€πŸ”§πŸ§°βš™οΈ RED, WHITE & BOOST! πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§
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ZeDefender wrote:
Please does someone have a link to this piece of (concrete) information that the Americans are saying "no" to the DC100. I think I missed something (more than usual)...


Not sure if this is something recent. This very story was already published in either LRO or LRM or both several months ago, so if there is a new article sounds like a rehash.... You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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Eduardo



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Hi there,

Appears in the LRO magazine news under the tittle "America Killed the DC-100" said somewhere "The DC100's failure to excite the off-road market, where Jeep dominates, killed it"
I dont remember exactly when but should be the Nov/Dec 2012 edition...

Cheers

Edited: Was in the January edition...
I dont have the article with me, but not sound good to the DC100 future as it is. Eduardo

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Odin



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Re: The American don't like the DC100
Rob wrote:
why did it have to take the americans to say no to the DC100 yet we all said it was Censored but Land Rover refused to listen to us???? Shocked


At a guess it's got something to do with a desire to re-enter the utility market in the USA esp given the recent high impact and cash flow due to the D4 and RRS? Sounds like a prudent business decision, or should they focus on UK sales instead and keep pushing a niche outdated product with very limited market?

Are you in business?
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Re: The American don't like the DC100
Odin wrote:
keep pushing a niche outdated product with very limited market


I agree - works for Marmite Thumbs Up Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
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Odin



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That's a good analogy to a £30,000 utility vehicle.
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I never claimed it was a good analogy Rolling Eyes

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Setok



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Maybe someone can explain something...

Many media articles have been almost surprisingly positive about the vehicle. Few have mentioned that it, well, looks nothing like a Defender, and thus breaks the line, or that it might be missing the basic, rustic appeal of the Defender. Yet forum comments (not just here, but many other forums), Facebook comments, Twitter comments and comments on the actual articles themselves have been overwhelmingly negative. Even the positive comments have stated to liking it for what it is, but that they do not necessarily see it as a Defender replacement.

How exactly does that work? Is the media out of touch with the people, or is something funny going on?

Land Rover seem to be overlooking how the Defender is incredibly loved, even in markets like the US where it's not available. People love how it looks and what it stands for. The ultimate "does what it says on the tin" offroad and overlanding vehicle. What they don't like are the concerns about reliability and some comfort issues. Plus, of course, that it's not available in the US.

The solution, to me, seems pretty obvious. Evolve the design and possibly the mechanics, tweak it so it can be sold in the US, and then market the hell out of it (it's amazing how many people don't even know LR still make them). But simple solutions obviously cannot be right. Right?
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