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Pupsi



Member Since: 11 Nov 2012
Location: Münster
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Germany 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Santorini Black
May 2010 TD4 drives to the right side...
Hello,

I own a 2011 TD4 with just 25000km on the clock.
I have a problem and still no solution.
The TD4 always drives to the right - I hope this is not a special hsitoric feature for the German market Wink
(wheels have been balanced and changed, fall set + track set have been made twice).

The Land Rover garage says it is allright like this but it is not !
Suspension settings, wheels etc. is all original.
If I drive from 60 miles onwards I have always to correct the steering wheel and if I take hands of the car it goes (first slow than faster) to the right.
I need some (smal) power to get the car straight forward and not just hold the steering wheel.
I drove some other TD4's that all drive quite good and drove nice straight forward.
I have still warranty but that does not help me with this problem.
I know there are a lot of things that could cause this problem but hope somebody have another good idea for me.

Many thanks and best regards from Germany,

Nikolai Defender 110 TD4 (Experience)
Post #194624 18th Dec 2012 2:01pm
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JWL



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England 2002 Defender 110 Td5 SW Coniston Green
Have you tried jacking the front up so that both wheels are free from the ground. See if one side is binding as it may be that there is some dragging of brakes or a bearing binding giving the effect of letting one wheel spin easier/faster than the other. It might be worth doing this when it's cold and also after a fair bit of travel when it's warm and has shown the symptoms you describe.
Post #194629 18th Dec 2012 2:19pm
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Pupsi



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Germany 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Santorini Black
I have looked at the wheels and brakes.
Everything moves free and easy.

I had two different official Land Rover garages a look at it.
As they can not locate the mistake they are afraid of channging parts that could cause the problem.
The one standard answer here in Germany ist "it is a Defender and normal" or "we are sorry we do not know what is wrong with your car. As we have problems do get our fault search and the parts paid from Land Rover so we do nothing".
(It is not possible do get direct contact do a technical Land Rover man only with the costumer departement). Defender 110 TD4 (Experience)
Post #194690 18th Dec 2012 6:43pm
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Dieselhead



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Your steering wheel is on the wrong side Laughing

I would start with brakes, bearings etc

What kind of wheels do you have?? Chris

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Post #194692 18th Dec 2012 6:51pm
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ZeDefender



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Germany 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Baltic Blue
It's probably not much help but I find my (German) 110 is very sensitive to the camber of the road... and many German roads (including Autobahns) have significant camber. Mine also apparently pulls to the right, although if I drive on the left side of the road (as I learned) it pulls to the left Rolling Eyes Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
Post #194699 18th Dec 2012 7:20pm
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dgardel



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1st I agree with ZeDefender

2nd check the connection from the frame and the pull rod (rear) and the push rod(front)

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Post #194701 18th Dec 2012 7:28pm
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Pupsi



Member Since: 11 Nov 2012
Location: Münster
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Germany 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Santorini Black
Thanks a lot.
I hope you know that I have do do all this work outside on a road in the city centre Whistle
So it will depend on weather etc. and I can not do all the checks on the road on my own... Wink
Please understand if my next reply will take some time.

Nikolai Defender 110 TD4 (Experience)
Post #194704 18th Dec 2012 7:34pm
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Regard



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South Africa 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 X-Tech LE Orkney Grey
Hi Pupsi

Please send Naks on the forum a PM.

He had a very simmilar issue that was eventualy resolved by the pannel beaters inserting some kind of very small spacer somewhere in the suspension after LR could cure his problem.
Post #194717 18th Dec 2012 8:04pm
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mk1collector



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Measure wheel centre to wheel centre on left and right side and see if they match up
Post #194736 18th Dec 2012 9:00pm
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Pupsi



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Germany 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Santorini Black
One of the LR garage fited an extra shim here:


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It did not help. I could not talk to the mechanic as the garage had the last day opened. It then closed for ever... Defender 110 TD4 (Experience)
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mk1collector



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mk1collector wrote:
Measure wheel centre to wheel centre on left and right side and see if they match up
Post #194961 19th Dec 2012 7:31pm
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Pupsi



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Will do this as the next step... Defender 110 TD4 (Experience)
Post #194962 19th Dec 2012 7:36pm
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