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LR90XS2011



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
munch90 wrote:
LR90XS2011 wrote:
I've used quality 2SO in my BM for 62k miles from new it has a DPF no ill effects so far in fact the at each MOT they cant even measure the emissions


just out of interest what oil do you use?



BMW Serviced with Mobile 1 at every 18k miles and I change it between them doing it, so every 9k (I still worry about the dodgy cam chain issue thought) DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

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munch90



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sorry I meant what 2so you use Embarassed
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LR90XS2011



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
Castrol power1 racing 2t (or the equivalent Castrol scooter 2t that appears to be similar spec if I cant get power 1 racing) DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

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CarlW



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Scotland 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
I pre-mix my 2SO with some diesel in an old 2SO 4l can. In my other cars with DPF's I run 300:1 so I pre-mix 1l of 2SO with 2L of diesel and then just add 200ml to 20l or 700ml to 70l etc. When I add to the Defender without the DPF I run 200:1 and add 1.5 times the amount ie 300ml to 20l or 1050ml to 70l.

Makes deciding the quantity to add easier, I think it helps the 2SO mix in the tank and it makes the quantity less sensitive (ie if you add 220ml to 20l of diesel it means you've only added about 7ml of 2SO more)

Carl MY11 110 XS Station Wagon in Stornoway
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EWS



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 90 Td5 HT Alveston Red
'06 TD5. 250 mls 2so added to full tank for first try. Most noticeable the reduced engine noise ,especially on cold start up.

( a generic horticultural mineral type )
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Marlin.45



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As EWS. 200-250ml agri 2 stroke meant for chainsaws etc. 2006 TD5 90 County
1961 MF35
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Macpaul



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I have to say at 1:300 I could tell no difference at all but at 1:200 there is definitely an improvement in noise and smoothness.

2013 USW so 2.2.

Comma low ash mineral 2 stroke. 2003 Td5 110 Hardtop
Now a 2013 110 USW too.
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Lambley



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I'm nearly at the end of my first tank on trial, cheap mineral 2stroke, 200ml added to a full tank, Ive noticed a difference in noise, it certainly runs smoother but Im sure there is an increase in exhaust smoke, maybe I'm just looking for it more but I'm sure it's there
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munch90



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everyone I've got to try it say the that there's smoked LESS with 2 stroke added , also mot smoke test results are better too
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Anderzander



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Not sure if it's coincidental - but at the end of my first tankful my mpg had dropped quite a bit.

I'm trying the next tank without to see what that returns.
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Lambley



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I'll persevere with it for another tank or two and see if the smoke gets less
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EWS



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 90 Td5 HT Alveston Red
On 3rd tank of 2stroke mix, definitely quieter on cold start, and generally quieter( engine noise), not noted any increase in mileage,( to varied).no noticeable increase in smoke. Must add this is using Tesco diesel, not any premium diesel.
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LR90XS2011



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its worth noting that potentially different 2stroke oils will give different results

someone using a mineral based one for a chain saw is likely to see a difference to someone using a synthetic one made for high performance motorcycle engine,s this is what it says on the Castrol web about the stuff I use in the BM


Castrol POWER1 2T with Clean Burn Formula provides long lasting performance.

For 2-stroke motorcycles.

Castrol POWER1 2T with Clean Burn Formula provides long lasting performance. It keeps the key engine components clean and free from carbon deposits, ensures low level of exhaust smoke. It protects from seizure under most arduous riding conditions and allows for fast & easy cold start.

Description
Castrol Power1 Racing 2T is an advanced, fully synthetic 2-stroke engine oil for use in high speed, high performance 2- stroke motorcycle engines to deliver ultimate performance.
Castrol Power1 Racing 2T with Race Derived Technology is designed to release the full potential from highly tuned motorcycle engines as it burns fast and protects well. It enhances throttle response for faster acceleration.
Application

Castrol Power 1 Racing is suitable for all modern, high performance 2-stroke motorcycle engines from European and Japanese manufacturers. It is designed for both oil injection and pre-mix lubrication, as per manufacturers' instructions, up to a fuel/oil ratio of 50:1.

Advantages
Faster acceleration from the start Burns fast and protects well Excellent engine cleanliness Exceptional resistance to seizure
Typical Characteristics

Name Method Units Typical
Density @ 15°C, Relative ASTM D4052 g/ml 0.86
Viscosity, Kinematic 100°C ASTM D445 mm²/s 7.5
Viscosity, Kinematic 40°C ASTM D445 mm²/s 42.51
Pour Point ASTM D97 °C -36
Flash Point, PMCC ASTM D93 °C 89.5
Ash, Sulphated Calculation % wt 0.18
Product Performance Claims
API TC
ISO-L-EGD
JASO FD (think this is the spec you need for a cat and dpf ) DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

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Post #367318 26th Oct 2014 7:46pm
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