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Jammer600



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Tonga Green
Sidelight bulbs?
What's the best sidelight bulbs to get? 90 Puma HT
Post #191677 7th Dec 2012 7:51pm
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SteveG



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Ones that emit light

Wink Wink Wink Wink
Post #191695 7th Dec 2012 9:14pm
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keith



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change them for 10W halogen , dont put led bulbs in as they are a horrible blue colour .
Post #191703 7th Dec 2012 9:59pm
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Caterham



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aren't they 10w to start with ?

I've got the horrible led 's. Very Happy

and want to get some white LED bulbs.....surely they are available and would therefore (as far as I'm concerned) be the best option.
Post #191704 7th Dec 2012 10:05pm
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keith



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proper white led would be lovolly but im yet to find any that dont have blue tinge , even all the xmas lights have gone blue , why cant i buy normal white xmas lights ant more ? Whos the monster that invented blue lights i know what id do with him and it wouldnt be very xmasy

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Post #191716 7th Dec 2012 10:48pm
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custom90



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Anyone used AutoBulbs Direct? I find they are good for these kind of bulbs. They have a selection of standard and upgrades in separate sections. Nor do you have a quality worry like buying from E-bay. Thumbs Up Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
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blackwolf



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Sidelights are normally 5W. Fitting 10W bulbs used to be illegal but I suspect is now ok as a result of Euro-harmonisation.
Post #191739 8th Dec 2012 12:14am
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SteveG



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According to vehicle regs sidelights have no wattage requirements, max or min so should be ok....


SCHEDULE 2

PART I
Requirements relating to obligatory front position lamps and to optional front position lamps to the extent specified in part ii

1. Number
(a) Any vehicle not covered by sub-paragraph (b), (c), (d), (e) or (f):
Two
(b) A pedal cycle with less than four wheels and without a sidecar:
One
(c) A solo motor bicycle:
One
(d) A motor bicycle combination with a headlamp on the motor bicycle:
One, on the sidecar
(e) An invalid carriage:
One
(f) A vehicle drawn or propelled by hand:
One
2. Position
(a) Longitudinal:
No requirement
(b) Lateral
(i)Where two front position lamps are required to be fitted
(A)Maximum distance from the side of the vehicle
(1)A motor vehicle first used on or after 1st April 1986: 400 mm
(2)A trailer manufactured on or after 1st October 1985: 150 mm
(3)Any other vehicle manufactured on or after 1st October 1985: 400 mm
(4)A motor vehicle first used before 1st April 1986 and any other vehicle manufactured before 1st October 1985: 510 mm
(B)Minimum separation distance between front position lamps: No requirement
(ii)Where one front position lamp is required to be fitted
(A)A sidecar forming part of a motor bicycle combination: On the centre-line of the sidecar or on the side of the sidecar furthest from the motor bicycle
(B)Any other vehicle: On the centre-line or off-side of the vehicle
(c) Vertical
(i)Maximum height above the ground
(A)Any vehicle not covered by sub-paragraph (B), (C) or (D): 1500 mm or, if the structure of the vehicle makes this impracticable, 2100 mm
(B)A motor vehicle first used before 1st April 1986 and a trailer manufactured before 1st October 1985: 2300 mm
(C)A motor vehicle, first used on or after 1st April 1986, having a maximum speed not exceeding 25 mph: 2100 mm
(D)A large passenger-carrying vehicle and a road clearance vehicle: No requirement
(ii)Minimum height above the ground No requirement
3. Angles of visibility
(a) A motor vehicle (not being a motor bicycle combination or an agricultural vehicle) first used on or after 1st April 1986 and a trailer manufactured on or after 1st October 1985
(i)Horizontal
(A)Where one lamp is required to be fitted: 80 to the left and to the right
(B)Where two lamps are required to be fitted: 80 outwards and 45 inwards (5 inwards in the case of a trailer)
(ii)Vertical
(A)Any case not covered by sub-paragraph (B): 15 above and below the horizontal
(B)Where the highest part of the illuminated area of the lamp is less than 750 mm above the ground: 15 above and 5 below the horizontal
(b) Any other vehicle:
Visible to the front
4. Alignment:
To the front
5. Markings
(a) A motor vehicle (other than a solo motor bicycle or a motor bicycle combination) first used on or after 1st January 1972 and a trailer manufactured on or after 1st October 1985:
An approval mark
(b) A solo motor bicycle and a motor bicycle combination in either case first used on or after 1st April 1986:
An approval mark
(c) Any other vehicle manufactured or first used on or after 1st October 1990:
An approval mark or a British Standard mark
(d) Any other vehicle:
No requirement
6. Size of illuminated area:
No requirement
7. Colour:
White or, if incorporated in a headlamp which is capable of emitting only a yellow light, yellow
8. Wattage:
No requirement
9. Intensity
(a) A front position lamp bearing any of the markings mentioned in paragraph 5:
No requirement
(b) Any other front position lamp:
Visible from a reasonable distance
10. Electrical connections:
No individual requirement
11. Tell-tale:
No requirement
12. Other requirements

(a) Except in the case of a vehicle covered by sub-paragraph (b), where two front position lamps are required to be fitted they shall form a pair.

(b) In the case of a trailer manufactured before 1st October 1985 and a motor bicycle combination, where two front position lamps are required to be fitted they shall be fitted on each side of the longitudinal axis of the vehicle.

13. Definitions

In this Schedule
approval mark means
(a)in relation to a solo motor bicycle or a motor bicycle combination, a marking designated as an approval mark by regulation 4 of the Designation of Approval Marks Regulations and shown at item 50A of Schedule 2 to those Regulations, and
(b)in relation to any other motor vehicle or any trailer, either
(i)a marking designated as an approval mark by regulation 5 of the Designation of Approval Marks Regulations and shown at item 5 of Schedule 4 to those Regulations, or
(ii)a marking designated as an approval mark by regulation 4 of the Designation of Approval Marks Regulations and shown at item 7 of Schedule 2 to those Regulations;
British Standard mark means the mark indicated in the specification for photometric and physical requirements for lighting equipment published by the British Standards Institution under the reference BS 6102: Part 3: 1986, namely BS 6102/3.
Post #191773 8th Dec 2012 11:52am
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FG



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As for LED replacements for front side lights, can anyone point to a site that sells some proper, good, powerful, bright ones that work (for longer than a fortnight) and fit?

/FG
Post #193123 13th Dec 2012 1:24pm
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GREENPUMA



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I fitted 10w bulbs and the lenses melted after a while. Sad
Post #193225 13th Dec 2012 7:00pm
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Lou Sparts



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I used 21w bulbs in the sidelights of my old Turbo Diesel years ago no probs.I think you can fit clear indicator lenses to the sidelights this allows the fitting of 21w bulbs on Td5 and Puma. 2005 Td5 90 XS

Steve
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GUM97



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FG wrote:
As for LED replacements for front side lights, can anyone point to a site that sells some proper, good, powerful, bright ones that work (for longer than a fortnight) and fit?

/FG


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Post #193247 13th Dec 2012 8:00pm
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Jammer600



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Would these fit? Ebay eBay Item No. 120755739290 90 Puma HT
Post #193270 13th Dec 2012 9:33pm
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Jammer600



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Tonga Green
Anybody got led sidelights? Got a pic of the front of there landy lit up? 90 Puma HT
Post #194009 16th Dec 2012 2:51pm
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