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Nasher



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9 seats?
Hi all.

Was thinking of going to look at this tomorrow, but am not sure as I didn't think any TDCi had 9 seats.
Probably just me getting my facts wrong.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/140876539927?ssP...1423.l2649

From the questions it looks like I'm not the only one to query it.

Nasher.
Post #181832 4th Nov 2012 12:41am
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Green Machine



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Tonga Green
The ad says its a 2.5 Tdi, which is obviously wrong as well. The only way you could achieve 9 seats is to have 4 inward facing seats in the boot like a Td5 CSW, but I don't think that does as you'd be able to see them in the side view photos. It could of course just be written by someone who doesn't actually know that much about the vehicle, which quite often happens! There are always a good few Pumas on AutoTrader listed as Td5s - usually by main dealers as well! Wouldn't be too put off by it. Just don't expect it to have 9 seats - probably the usual 7! 2005 Td5 | 90 Station Wagon | Tonga Green
Post #181834 4th Nov 2012 12:49am
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Nasher



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Yep, I saw the 2.5 TDi reference too, but put that down to stupidity.

But surely nobody can mistake two forward facing seats for four inward facing seats, unless it is a TD5 after all.

I've asked if I can view it, so we'll see what happens.

Might finaly swap the D3 for a Puma, then just need to save up for the 3.2 conversion Twisted Evil .

Nasher.
Post #181835 4th Nov 2012 12:59am
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WelshGas



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Wales 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
Careful study of the magnified side view does not show the forward facing seats in the rear, either in the unfolded or folded position. Could have Td5 rear side seats fitted which would be outside build spec and impossible to get insurance on. Fine if used ONLY on private land but NOT on public roads.
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Post #181844 4th Nov 2012 7:40am
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Nasher



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I've been in touch with them now, they are insisting it's a 2.4TDCi, and that it came new with 9 seats.

It will be worth viewing it just to confirm what it is.

The one interior shot does show the gear levers 'a la' TDCi.

Nasher.
Post #181951 4th Nov 2012 1:36pm
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Green Machine



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Tonga Green
Strange. Did they tell you how the seats are configured? The only other option is that it has 2 long benches down either side in the boot, as a 300 Tdi CSW would have had, but that would be none-approved as well, as Welsh Gas says. It's an odd one! Be interesting to finally find out what it does have! 2005 Td5 | 90 Station Wagon | Tonga Green
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Lou Sparts



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Could it be ROW spec ? 2005 Td5 90 XS

Steve
Post #181953 4th Nov 2012 1:49pm
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Nasher



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They've not mentioned the configuration, and I think are getting a little peeved at my questions judging by their answers getting shorter and shorter.

Annoyingly it will be much later in the week before I can get over to have a look, so if anyone wants to beat me to it please feel free.

Nasher.
Post #181954 4th Nov 2012 1:54pm
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Lou Sparts



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Zambezi Silver
Or a converetd USW,might be a good idea and get the reg number and confirm with your local main dealer exactly what it is before making a journey.A converted USW will not have the same value as a genuine CSW. 2005 Td5 90 XS

Steve
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Landlord



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Td5 HT Cairns Blue
Might not mean much but typed the reg no into moneysupermarket for insurance and reg not recognised. If it had recognised the reg it would have listed number of seats and details of vehicle. 2007 TD5 90 Hard Top
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LandRoverAnorak



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey
There's a picture showing the load bay now, without any seats in it at all. I think they're mistaking the carpeted wheel boxes for bench seats. Darren

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Post #182011 4th Nov 2012 5:56pm
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custom90



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Well spotted. Looks like a 5 seat to me from the pictures now. I'd have at least thought they'd have gave it a clean up though before taking pictures. Rolling Eyes Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
Post #182015 4th Nov 2012 5:58pm
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ericvv



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LandRoverAnorak wrote:
There's a picture showing the load bay now, without any seats in it at all. I think they're mistaking the carpeted wheel boxes for bench seats.


Correct, I went on the site a few hours ago, said I was interested, and asked the seller to add a picture of the load bay with the 4 extra seats.... Now we see the result. Rolling with laughter It is a 5 seat Puma in reality and guess the seller thinks that left and right those are two benches for 2 people each Thumbs Up You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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Post #182021 4th Nov 2012 6:14pm
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ericvv



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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
Here is copy of the sellers response to my question for the picture. He surely is no car buff... Whistle

QQ
Dear ericvv,
Richard is no car buff, he's given me a picture of the cargo area but I'm having trouble attaching it to this reply, any ideas?

- carolecurtis1960
QQ You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw
Post #182024 4th Nov 2012 6:22pm
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Dieselhead



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I cant see any rear seats

Just a very dirty area

Must be local to me then as its in Pulborough Razz Chris

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