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| Landlord Member Since: 27 Oct 2009 Location: Hampshire Posts: 582   
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Are you losing any coolant ? 2007 TD5 90 Hard Top
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3rd Nov 2012 12:02am |
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| Laurie Member Since: 22 Feb 2008 Location: Sussex, England Posts: 2897  
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Take it back to the dealers again and again until they find the cause.
Sounds like low compression on one or more cylinders. White smoke that hangs in the air is unburnt diesel, white smoke that disperses rapidly is steam.  |
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3rd Nov 2012 12:25am |
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| x-isle Member Since: 26 May 2011 Location: Midlands Posts: 1327  
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Surely this is just condensation in the exhaust burning off? Craig Rogers
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3rd Nov 2012 8:50am |
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| sc70 Member Since: 29 Jun 2010 Location: Tregaron Posts: 261 
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its not steam, definatley un burnt diesel the fumes are very strong. Drives fine and smoke goes once its warm, just had its first service
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3rd Nov 2012 10:25am |
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| Regard Member Since: 08 Dec 2011 Location: RSA Posts: 251  
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This doesn't sound right!
Request a Compression test as well as a CO2 test on your coolant. |
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3rd Nov 2012 10:42am |
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| JWL Member Since: 26 Oct 2011 Location: Hereford Posts: 3443 
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If you're getting an unburnt diesel smell when cold I'd be inclined to think along the lines of a Td5, check the heater plug circuit and if they are all working. With the Td5 there is 1 cylinder that is not fed with a glow plug and it might be your 4cyl is boost fuelling for a cold start which is taking longer to combust as it isn't getting a helping hand from a glow plug.
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3rd Nov 2012 11:25am |
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| wslr Member Since: 18 Jul 2010 Location: Wellington, Somerset Posts: 581
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The Tdci engines tend to overfuel at start up, and it chuck out smoke at start up, and it stinks. Worse that the Td5.
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3rd Nov 2012 3:42pm |
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| Jonno Member Since: 06 Mar 2012 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 234 
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Agreed mine does this every winter just overfuelling on a cold start I'd say, fairly smooth so I don't think a glow plug is down. Jonno |
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3rd Nov 2012 5:35pm |
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| noworries4x4 Member Since: 24 Dec 2010 Location: Newton Abbot Devon Posts: 1195
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My 57 plate was terrible in the cold, could not see the trailer in the mirrors on a cold morning untill the temp guage just started to lift then clear, mine always did it so never worried. On very cold mornings it looked realy bad. If everything is under control you are not going fast enough.
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3rd Nov 2012 6:28pm |
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| Lorryman100 Member Since: 01 Oct 2010 Location: Here Posts: 2686 |
The EMS sets the fuelling in the cylinders by using the CHT. When the engine head temp is low the EMS compensates by putting more fuel into the cylinder and as such if a glow plug was on its way out you would get the symptoms you describe as that cylinder won't have fired before the others. If the temp is close to zero and you start the Puma without waiting on the glow plugs, you will get a plume of white smoke due to un-burnt fuel.
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3rd Nov 2012 6:55pm |
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| Dave-H Member Since: 08 Feb 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 1507 
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Mine does tooo ....... but only for 10 - 15 seconds or so. Sounds like a glow plug issue to me too Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant. |
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3rd Nov 2012 9:14pm |
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| 1ten.neuss Member Since: 07 Nov 2008 Location: Neuss Posts: 27  
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When the Puma engine is cold and you descent down a road without any acceleration this is a kind of "normal" situation. I have seen this phenomenon especially in winter time when my TD4 parked through the night at around -15°C and heading down to a valley the next morning. The smell is auwfully but once you accelerate for about 1-2 minutes the engine runs regular again with no more smoke.
Regards, Bernd |
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4th Nov 2012 1:20pm |
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| aabruce Member Since: 17 Jun 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11 
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It's a dodgy fuel injector.. Just had this same issue on my wife's ford focus tdci..
Other symptom is slight rough running when cold. Alex |
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25th Nov 2012 8:04pm |
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| sc70 Member Since: 29 Jun 2010 Location: Tregaron Posts: 261
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thanks for the replys, its going back tomorrow to have the nas step changed due to cracking from towing
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25th Nov 2012 10:05pm |
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