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Dave-H



Member Since: 08 Feb 2011
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England 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Tonga Green
Same as mine - By the end of the warranty it had....

Replacement engine
2 ECU's
Clutch
Steering box
Air con compressor
Rolling Eyes
As well as a few minor repairs [Swivel seals, another Air con fault, couple of electrical issues]

That lot totals about 10k or so inc labour !! Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant.
Post #179604 27th Oct 2012 9:31pm
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Norm4n



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Which main dealer did your warranty work?
Post #179624 27th Oct 2012 10:09pm
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Caterham



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how comes the engine got replaced?
Post #179627 27th Oct 2012 10:18pm
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bell-auto-services



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey
Caterham wrote:
Embarassed

fogot to change the mod over !!

and already dropped the car off?

suppose I could go back tomorrow and tell em I left something in the car could they give me access?

damn damn danm !


You need to remove any electrical mods incase they do updates on the car that could affect it.

Pete
Post #179634 27th Oct 2012 10:47pm
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Dave-H



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Norm4n wrote:
Which main dealer did your warranty work?


Everything done by Guy Salmon's at Thames Ditton ............ couldnt fault them, fantastic service, great communication and good after repair contact Cool Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant.
Post #179887 28th Oct 2012 9:23pm
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Dave-H



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England 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Tonga Green
Caterham wrote:
how comes the engine got replaced?


Mine was one of the first batch for sale ... which alas had a machining fault on a oilway in the head [lack of oil feed to cam resulting in premature wear and distinctive clatter]

LR replaced all engines complete rather than repair .... mine was done with 200 miles on the clock ! Laughing Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant.
Post #179889 28th Oct 2012 9:27pm
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Caterham



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dave-h

aha - thanks.



will call in tomoz first thing to swap over the 'mod'
Post #179910 28th Oct 2012 10:18pm
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Caterham



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a bit embarassing calling into dealers .....

popping bonnet and taking the engine apart (well swapping a small part of it)....

salesman who knows what the issue is suggested while the bonnet was up that I swap the gearbox Embarassed


hopefully get an update tomorrow. got a freeland hse and its doing less MPG than the defender !!!! Shocked
Post #180209 29th Oct 2012 9:45pm
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Caterham



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just had a call from the dealer to tell me its the clutch thats gone.

not had a clutch fail on me before but I thought this was more gearbox, transfer box or differential than clutch?

any thoughts?
Post #180658 31st Oct 2012 3:20pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Dave-H wrote:
Caterham wrote:
how comes the engine got replaced?


Mine was one of the first batch for sale ... which alas had a machining fault on a oilway in the head [lack of oil feed to cam resulting in premature wear and distinctive clatter]

LR replaced all engines complete rather than repair .... mine was done with 200 miles on the clock ! Laughing


Do you have a TSB reference or similar for this? I hadn't heard of this defect.

Do you know which vehicles were affected?
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Dave-H



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England 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Tonga Green
Think this was it? ... though this one is dated 21st july 08, mine was done in june 08


Land Rover Service Bulletin SSM38792, 2.4 Puma Engine Knock Noise.
Title: 2.4 Puma Engine Knock Noise.
Type: LD - Defender - All Years - Special Service Messages - Engine
Name / Part No: SSM38792
Info Type: Service Bulletins
Version No: 1
Date Uploaded: 21 Jul 2008
Models: LD - Defender
Title: 2.4 Puma Engine Knock Noise.
Last Modified: 21-JUL-2008 09:44
Category: Engine
Symptom: 497000 Engine Noise

Content Issue: Heavy audible knocking heard on start up.
Cause: On start up oil pressures can cause the piston cooling jets, (PCJ), to latch into a zero flow condition. Due to hysteresis effect in design the jets do not unlatch until the engine is warm and the oil pressures lower again. During this time with no pressurized oil jet flow to the lower pistons / cylinder bores, overheat and scuff conditions / damage can occur.

Action: Replace the engine assy but ensure only engines post serial # ELD00080707063602 are used.
This condition will not occur on vehicles post assured Vin# 9A767162.
Engines post the info above are fitted with modified PCJ internal springs and this issue is now closed.



Effects a batch of engines fitted before July .... check your vin Wink Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant.
Post #180697 31st Oct 2012 5:21pm
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