↓ Advertise on Defender2 ↓

Home > Puma (Tdci) > MY12 110 2.2 REV PROBLEMS
Post Reply  Down to end
Page 1 of 1
Print this entire topic · 
keith



Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 2164

Scotland 
MY12 110 2.2 REV PROBLEMS
Hi my brand new 110 xs 2.2 is a terrible drive . when i release the throttle the revs stay on for 3 seconds and when i depress the clutch the revs stay up for 3 seconds . This makes driving almost impossible and gear changing like a 1940s tracktor . When driving at normal speed the vehicle starts sputtering as though its lacking air or fuel .No faults are showing on the dealers diagnostics yet this cannot be normal . Any ideas on this new 2.2
Post #162199 15th Aug 2012 8:46pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
110SEB



Member Since: 29 Jan 2009
Location: Essex, England
Posts: 1444

United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Keith get REALLY stroppy with your dealer and get them to come out with you on a drive until the problem shows. Good luck.
Post #162200 15th Aug 2012 8:51pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
ericvv



Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5816

Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
Re: MY12 110 2.2 REV PROBLEMS
keith wrote:
Hi my brand new 110 xs 2.2 is a terrible drive . when i release the throttle the revs stay on for 3 seconds and when i depress the clutch the revs stay up for 3 seconds . This makes driving almost impossible and gear changing like a 1940s tracktor . When driving at normal speed the vehicle starts sputtering as though its lacking air or fuel .No faults are showing on the dealers diagnostics yet this cannot be normal . Any ideas on this new 2.2


3 seconds sounds a bit too much, but it indeed takes a bit of time to get used to the electronic throttle of the Puma. There indeed is a delay in response to releasing the throttle, and this basically means that before changing gears, you have to first releast the throttle, wait a second or so and then depress the clutch. You will never be able to change gears fast, this is no eurobox or sportsbox, you have to give the mechanism time to do what it has to do without forcing.
It took me several weeks to get used to this electronic throttle and the delayed response, but once you have understood it, and provided that you agree to change gears not fast at all, it becomes a gem to drive.

The sputtering however at normal speed, no idea what that can be. Again, avoid to handle the throttle too brutally, maybe that will help. You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw
Post #162201 15th Aug 2012 8:54pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
keith



Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 2164

Scotland 
Keith
Thanks for the positive reply . Yep the release of the throttle first then a wait before changing seems to work , strangely the factory asked what i was used to ( TD5 ) and said to change my driving style , that this was the new engine managment system of 3 seconds hold on the rev drop . weird . the TD5 was slick smooth and lovelly in comparison . i find this new 2.2 very difficult . And whats with the exessive blowing noise from the air intake ? its like a burst exhaust
Post #162205 15th Aug 2012 9:09pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
bob neville



Member Since: 30 Apr 2009
Location: Marbella
Posts: 3247

Spain 2001 Defender 90 Td5 SW Epsom Green
Keith

Air intake noise could be the air filter box top is not fitted correctly. They can be a Censored to seat correctly.

Bob 2015 Jaguar XE240 R Sport - goes like ....... !!
2013 Defender 90 CSW - sold
2009 Defender 110 Double Cab - sold
2001 TD5 90 CSW - offroad project - sold to a forum member
2011 Porsche Boxster - for the sunny days !
Post #162210 15th Aug 2012 9:21pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
dgardel



Member Since: 30 Nov 2008
Location: Veneto (Heart & Head)
Posts: 3586

Italy 
Check the clutch switch (pressure operated switch on the clutch pump, engine bay) Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

IID Pro MV License
Post #162318 16th Aug 2012 11:52am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Send e-mail Reply with quote
RobKeay



Member Since: 19 Jul 2009
Location: Stafford
Posts: 1567

United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey
I found not fully taking my foot of the pedal helps to make the smoother. Just apply a tiny bit of revs.
Post #162356 16th Aug 2012 1:51pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Higgers



Member Since: 08 Apr 2009
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 666

United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Firenze Red
Mines exactly the same...very annoying and results in a terrible gear change.
Post #162675 17th Aug 2012 7:01pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Send e-mail Reply with quote
Landyrob



Member Since: 07 Jul 2011
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 93

United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 HT Alpine White
i experienced the same, with the late'ish 2,2 clutch release but i've got used to it now, i never change gears fast.
the 2,4 did not have this as new but in the meantime with 80'000 on the clock and still running with the first clutch your forced to change gears slowly anyway. LANDROVER Defender Best 4 x 4 x Far
Defender TD4 90 Hardtop 2.4
Defender TD4 110 Hardtop 2.2
Post #162742 17th Aug 2012 10:34pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Post Reply
Post Reply  Back to top
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT + 1 Hour

Jump to  
Previous Topic | Next Topic >
Posting Rules
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



Site Copyright © 2006-2024 Futuranet Ltd & Martin Lewis
DEFENDER2.NET RSS Feed - All Forums