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ZeDefender



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Nice photos - good to see a decent comparison of sizes.
Was recently told (by my very cooperative dealer) in no uncertain terms that fitting one will pretty much invalidate all engine guarantees. So now I'm just waiting for my warranty to expire Rolling Eyes Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
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BigWheels



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So fitting an intercooler takes a few hours?... Wink I need to factor in labour costs if I want one. Neutral Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender
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MD5



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Intercooler + silicon hose install can be done at home in about 1h and 1/2 for the veichle with AC and slightly less for non AC model.
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K9F



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^^^^^^

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The bonnet cross-brace has to be removed as well as the two landing panels either side. Have a look on Alive's site there is a PDF download explaining the process on a non-AC model (see link below). I also had A-bar and lights to remove along with the grille etc. The four studs that hold the bonnet brace in can only be removed if there is sufficient thread to get two nuts on, if not as in my case it took significantly longer to remove the brace. The fitting of the silicone hoses alone took that long as they too are a very tight fit especially on the stainless steel hard-pipes as they themselves do not flex. The two lower mounting peg holes on the original radiator too needed a little 'fettling' to facilitate fitment. Removal of the old cooler and hoses took three hours, but then I am not rushed and a methodical worker. 12 hours is what I took which included coffee, meal breaks and tidying up and laying away tools etc. afterwards. Realistically allow yourself a full day for non planned eventualities! We shall undoubtedly see with any subsequent reports!

Hour an a half???......No chance!!!!!

http://www.alivetuning.com/alive-boutique/...cooler.pdf If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #246085 23rd Jun 2013 9:14pm
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MD5



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I'm not a pro skilled mechanic but only a Defender Lover hobbyst, fairly equipped.

Before doing the job I carefully read others user experience, tweaks, and well documented about do and dont's.
On my Def, the new intercooler nicely fit without any kind of problem, it's like it was custom build for my veichle and theese are one of the reason of my enthusiastic rating.

I initially planned to do the job in about 1/2 day, but then evertithing run trouble free and in the best manner possible. I can assure that the entire task took about 1,5h.

The most important thing is that the intercooler+hose replacement can be done at home without the need of professional assistance and this is very important to self-learn how our veichle are made.


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Post #246174 24th Jun 2013 9:04am
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ZeDefender



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Yours came from ChipTech, didn't it? Might be a better fit than some others... Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
Post #246180 24th Jun 2013 9:30am
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MD5



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Hello Matt, I confirm, it's the ChipTech. Thumbs Up
Post #246182 24th Jun 2013 9:36am
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ZeDefender



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Does yours have air conditioning? Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
Post #246195 24th Jun 2013 10:34am
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Naks



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MD5 wrote:
Intercooler + silicon hose install can be done at home in about 1h and 1/2 for the veichle with AC and slightly less for non AC model.


I call BS. Took a mate and I 4.5 - 5 hours to get the Allisport in. Whistle --
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MD5



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@Matt: I confirm, AC version.
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K9F



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Alive....Chiptech.... Nakatanenga.... if you can tell the difference.....????

I agree with Naks naturally. Not having air conditioning would have made the job so much quicker with regards to accessability. A great deal of my time as stated was taken up fitting the hard-pipes and their associated silicone unions. A point to note here was my old pipe also had signs of chafing that has been mentioned in other threads against the pulley/flywheel so I suppose it would just have been a matter of time before I needed to do something about the pipes anyway.

ZeDefender wrote:
On their Facebook page, Alive (Gary) says they'll be stocking new intercoolers with "German engineering". The photo looks very similar to a Chiptech intercooler that has been around for some time... although Chiptech are Austrian Whistle
Webpage: www.chiptech.at (see second photo down)

Similarly, the Nakatanenga intercooler also appears closely related to the Chiptech one (Nak and Chiptech have worked together in the past). It's also similarly priced.
Webpage: http://nakatanenga-tours.de/shop/article_N...DEF-TD5%26

The plot thickens...


What I will add is that irrespective of who's look like who's? and who makes what? sourcing in the UK is very competitively priced and the doorbell rings within 24 hours of placing your order.

Thumbs Up If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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foxkilla



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Fitted my serck intercooler and silicone hoses today, on air con puma. It took exactly 4 hours start to finish SmileWink
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MD5



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I read that almost all of you spent at least 4h to install the intercooler. At this point I'm sure that I was wrong in stating that the install require less time, I probably don't remember correctly so please accept my apologize. Embarassed
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K9F



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^^^^

No need to apologise. I was just putting together a HUGE financial incentive for you to relocate to the UK. I'll buy 'em and provide the workshop, you fit 'em and we'll both make a fortune at a rate of 6 vehicles with intercoolers fitted in a day. Oh well have to think of something else to make my/our fortune now.

Big Cry Thumbs Up Cool If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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jst



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mine took around 2hrs to fit with A/C but i dont have anything in front of the grill, lights etc. Cheers

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