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Youngfolk



Member Since: 19 Oct 2018
Location: CapeTown
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South Africa 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 DCPU Alpine White
110 Puma turns over strong but wont start
Hello Forum, I need some advice, I have a 2012 2.2 Puma defender double cab, seems to be a starter issue. I have a strong battery, the motor turns over, I give it some diesel but she just won't start. Over the last 2 weeks every odd moment she wouldn't start, few turns of the key and then she takes. Now she's as dead as a doornail. Any pointers if its fuses, starter motor etc. Had it serviced not so long ago but now I'm stuck.
Post #735754 19th Oct 2018 6:35pm
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Cupboard



Member Since: 21 Mar 2014
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 2971

United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey
Are the needles in the gauges doing anything funny?

I've had starting issues like you describe that were down to a loose relay. I took them all out, gave them a wiggle and it fired right up. A couple of weeks later it started doing it again so I took out half the relays to narrow it down, etc etc. Eventually I found it was the main relay that powers all the electronics. The final time it played up the car started fine, I drove 100m and then it suddenly cut out. Took the relay out, tightened the terminals, put it back and I haven't had any issues since.
Post #735780 19th Oct 2018 7:45pm
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Youngfolk



Member Since: 19 Oct 2018
Location: CapeTown
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South Africa 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 DCPU Alpine White
Thank you, no the needles all work like normal, so will have a look this morning and also check all the fuses and remove them all to check contact and if nothing get it towed to my local Land Rover in Cape Town and have them check using their diagnostics..

It worked fine the day before and drove like normal too. I have tried to google relay drawings etc re the fuse box but no real luck so I'll take them all out one by one.
Post #735822 20th Oct 2018 3:56am
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justinp



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I’ve no experience with this, but my suggestion is to reprime the fuel pump, perhaps the service left some air in the system? Especially if the service included a fuel filter change. Now gone - 2012 2.2 110 DC XS
Post #735835 20th Oct 2018 7:21am
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Bushpig



Member Since: 07 Nov 2013
Location: Risca, Wales
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Wales 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Alpine White
Not sure which year or model yours is?
Have a look at this thread:
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic20997.html
or use the search function with "workshop manual" will bring up many more results...
http://www.defender2.net/forum/search.php?...rch_time=0

Edit: was about 3 blocks away from you yesterday morning in Silverhill Crescent Shocked Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.
Douglas Adams

2012 2.2 Puma
Post #735838 20th Oct 2018 7:32am
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geezer



Member Since: 27 Feb 2011
Location: Brissy
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Australia 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Zermatt Silver
Long shot, but check the fuel filter and drain any water out if there is any.

I had a similar problem, drained out water and it started fine after that.

Service guys and myself sometimes forget to drain.
Post #737548 30th Oct 2018 9:59am
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bigfatsi



Member Since: 07 Sep 2018
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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Aintree Green
Do pumas suffer any immobiliser issues? Just thinking out loud.

S
Post #737552 30th Oct 2018 10:25am
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Oh, yes, and how!

A very common problem, the passive immobiliser is a pain in the backside.
Post #737589 30th Oct 2018 1:24pm
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HardCharger



Member Since: 03 Mar 2013
Location: Manila, SFO, Amsterdam
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2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
What blackwolf said!

Also, as I may be experiencing, maybe air is getting into your fuel system?

Also, blackwolf recommended that the crankcase position sensor and the camshaft position sensor be checked as well to see if they're still working properly.
Post #737738 31st Oct 2018 1:42am
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Youngfolk



Member Since: 19 Oct 2018
Location: CapeTown
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South Africa 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 DCPU Alpine White
I've taken the defender to Land Rover in Tokai, and again more testing and it just won't do the same thing it does on the open road...

I think its the immobilizer above any fuel issue. After contamination from a local Total garage and having the entire fuel system cleaned, new injectors replaced by Bosch Deisel it runs proper, no matter the road... Took it through the Ceres Mountains on bad roads and she just drove like a dream, so it's definitely not a wiring short issue or a fuse contact issue, so I think I need to have someone disconnect the immobilizer.

I don't think the OEM has any qualified guys to really sort this out...
Post #747957 29th Dec 2018 6:32pm
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