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zsd-puma

Member Since: 09 Aug 2016
Location: Kent
Posts: 2720

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black

There's no reason why you can't just fit one of those bleed bulbs and leave it in permanently. For example Peugeots with the XUD engines used to have one permanently plumbed in.

22nd Jul 2018 2:46pm

zsd-puma

Member Since: 09 Aug 2016
Location: Kent
Posts: 2720

UtilityTruck wrote:
So the 2.2 has a lift pump and doesn’t need to be bled- do you just put the ignition to the accessory position and it runs the fuel pump to prime the system? Or is it more involved?

Basically yes, the 2.2 and TD5 have an electric lift pump, so turn on the ignition and let the pump bring the pressure back up and away you go.

22nd Jul 2018 2:53pm

UtilityTruck

Member Since: 09 Jan 2014
Location: Oxford
Posts: 463

Cheers ZSD 2014 Keswick Utility 2.2

22nd Jul 2018 3:15pm

BykerPete

Member Since: 02 Feb 2015
Location: Midlands
Posts: 159

2014 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Willow Green

Apologies but I'm still a bit confused about whether I need some kind of priming apparatus (tube, pump etc.) or not if I completely run out of fuel..

I have a 2014 2.2 Tdci Puma.

Also, has anyone tried one if these on a Defender Puma 2.2?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Genuine-Sealey-Di...op?ie=UTF8

Sorry for being a bit slow here, but some say priming kit is needed, others say not.

Thanks,

Peter. Drink Coffee, Talk to Strangers and Take Photos.

4th Sep 2018 1:43pm

UtilityTruck

Member Since: 09 Jan 2014
Location: Oxford
Posts: 463

I have a 2014 puma 2.2.

I did the water drain procedure recently, when I closed the tap on the filter I simply turned the key to the accessory position (the one before start) to turn on the pump. Once I heard the tone change I started the engine, it stared without incident and I let it idle for a couple of minutes. No problems 1000miles later. Next time I’ll try a fresh filter, but I expect there are no problems with the 2.2 and it’s in tank pump wrt priming the filter. 2014 Keswick Utility 2.2

4th Sep 2018 3:58pm

zsd-puma

Member Since: 09 Aug 2016
Location: Kent
Posts: 2720

Nope 2.2's have an electric in tank pump no need for a priming tool.

4th Sep 2018 7:55pm

BykerPete

Member Since: 02 Feb 2015
Location: Midlands
Posts: 159

Thank you. Drink Coffee, Talk to Strangers and Take Photos.

4th Sep 2018 9:42pm

Bluest

Member Since: 23 Apr 2016
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 3996

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black

For a 2.4 does this have right connection? Draper 43986 Diesel Priming Pump https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0012332TU/ref...KBbV6A2M70 Seems like a good price, but would it do the job?

On YouTube there is a video of a different product, the Sealey VS555. You can see when the guy is demonstrating it that there is some sort of valve, that the Draper one above doesn’t have, but I can’t work out what it does and if that somehow makes it function better.

2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS

7th Sep 2018 6:11pm

WhathaveIdone!

Member Since: 04 Feb 2016
Location: Sakhalin Island
Posts: 27

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Tonga Green

There are two connections near the top of the engine bay - an 11.8mm female/male followed by an 9.89mm female/ male.

The connectors appear to be an industry standard sizing and are available here for a few quid. There may be other vendors, was just the first one I came across.

Flaky pictures showing the general arrangement and the size markings on the fittings:

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Should be easy to select a pair of either the smaller or larger fittings to complete a priming set.

15th Oct 2018 11:28am

HardCharger

Member Since: 03 Mar 2013
Location: Manila, SFO, Amsterdam
Posts: 673

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey

Hi All!

Just curious, would it not be possible to get a priming pump on a switch just for priming the system? I realize this is maybe a more expensive solution though, but is it possible?

As for the official tool, so you plumb the male bit into the part that usually plugs into the male end of the LR006249 (Pipe to Pump) and the female bit of the tool goes onto the male bit of the pipe? If so, how does one use the inline valve to vent the air in the system?

31st Oct 2018 8:30am

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 16857

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

The tank is the same for a TD5 and a 2.4 TDCi, ergo it must be possible to fit a TD5 submerged pump into a Puma tank. I am not sure if this could be done to use the TD5 pump for a quick purge, then shut it off.

Similarly I imagine that the 2.2 TDCi still uses the same tank, and that has a submerged pump. I don't know if it is the same as a TD5 pump, or a lower pressure unit.

31st Oct 2018 9:21am

MartinK

Member Since: 02 Mar 2011
Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border)
Posts: 2664

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Orkney Grey

HardCharger wrote:
Hi All!

Just curious, would it not be possible to get a priming pump on a switch just for priming the system? I realize this is maybe a more expensive solution though, but is it possible?

As for the official tool, so you plumb the male bit into the part that usually plugs into the male end of the LR006249 (Pipe to Pump) and the female bit of the tool goes onto the male bit of the pipe? If so, how does one use the inline valve to vent the air in the system?

I guess you could leave an in-line pump (manual or electric) in the same position as the fuel bleeding pump we're discussing here...That would be pretty easy to do. It has been mentioned before on here but not sure if anyone's done it yet Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)

31st Oct 2018 10:56am

HardCharger

Member Since: 03 Mar 2013
Location: Manila, SFO, Amsterdam
Posts: 673

OK, so now, the question becomes, what kind and size of pump is needed then when in the engine bay. The units mentioned by blackwolf are for the fuel tank side of things.

1st Nov 2018 8:49am

HardCharger

Member Since: 03 Mar 2013
Location: Manila, SFO, Amsterdam
Posts: 673

Hi All!

I'm considering on purchasing a Sealey VS055 Diesel Fuel System Priming Device to help me to prime my truck as I reckon that there is already air in the fuel pump hence my cranking but no firing. Will this device work for my purposes? If I order it now from Amazon UK, I can get it next week (I'm on the other side of the world).

Thanks.

Update: just looked it up and this cannot be used on the Puma. Bummer

If you want the kit that can work with Ford (Puma) engines the kit needed is Sealey VS552. It also comes with other hose attachments as well and has the vent thing near the end which is apparently some kind of diagnostic connector and vacuum monitor as well. It's going for £79.99 on Amazon UK at the moment.

Looks like I really need to make one up for the meantime. I already have the old pipe to pump that I can salvage for the fittings, anyone know the size of bulb and hoses needed to make this work?

If I need to re-prime my pump, I just keep pumping until the bulb gets a bit difficult to squeeze and then start the engine?

9th Nov 2018 4:12am

MartinK

Member Since: 02 Mar 2011
Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border)
Posts: 2664

I used an 8mm bulb...this one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8mm-Fuel-Primer...:rk:1:pf:0 Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)

9th Nov 2018 9:44am

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