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Justtellme



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Td5 injector loom OEM
I just received subject item from Paddocks.

I ordered an OEM one and it looks pretty good relative to the ones I've seen on line but it came in a Britpart box which scares me a bit.
It has the brand name "Cannon" on the top of the main harness round connector. Normally I wouldn't expect Chinese copies to have any branding on them. Is this really an OEM manufactured one?
Interestingly it seems to have been manufactured in 2012 according to the sticker on the side.
Patrick
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PaulMc



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ITT Cannon make the 8-way sealed connector -


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The injector connectors are made by TE Connectivity and could have any of the following branding on them -

AMP, Tyco, TE, or just the TE Connectivity logo.


Bosch and Delphi also make connectors that fit the injectors - but, these aren't usually used.


The OE supplier of harnesses to Land Rover are Leoni Wiring Systems.

If your injector harness was sold as 'OEM' - then it should have been made by Leoni, using quality connectors - even in a Br(Sh)itpart box.

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Swac3



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ITT Cannon make a huge variety of connectors including MIL spec and Aircraft stuff but who can say if its a genuine part or not ? fakers aren't adverse to stamping brand names onto copies tho as you say usually they don't bother.

Unless you're desperately in need of the truck, it looks like a call to your supplier is in order.


Lol Paul beat me to it 3 Landrovers
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Justtellme



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Thanks Paul and Swac,

Looking closer at the loom it has the ITT Cannon plug, each of the injector plugs has the Stylized TE logo on them and the wiring looks to have Raychem 16 200C etched on them.....some look like it might be T6 200C
On the wiring loom protector there is a sticker with:
51259988 MODK. 14:32 BRD 01
AMR6103 ISSB 020612 Wk 22

Based on the ITT Cannon and Tycho branded connectors that you have quoted and the fact that Raychem wiring is a Tycho brand, (from their website....T6 200C continuous operating in -40 to +200C temps and resistant to all automotive fluids including oil submersion) I'm leaning towards this being a legitimate loom and worth installing from a newbie perspective.
Thoughts?

Patrick

PS...my wife is getting pretty annoyed with me having an automotive wiring loom on the bedside table while I search online.
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PaulMc



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Patrick,

From your description, I would say that you have a genuine, or OEM quality harness Thumbs Up


Justtellme wrote:
my wife is getting pretty annoyed with me having an automotive wiring loom on the bedside table while I search online


Rolling with laughter

She'd probably have a fit at the boxes of connectors, reels of cable, and Land Rover harnesses that I've got piled-up in my house Laughing

Fortunately for me, my wife has been very understanding (so far) Whistle

. Paul.
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1999 Epsom Green Discovery II 4.0 V8i 'XS'
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derbywill



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The britpart ones are actually OEM! I fitted one a while back.
Will 2005 90 XS
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Britpart don't do their own version, only OEM

a lot of OEM parts from britpart are now re-packed into britpart boxes with OEM written under the part number. https://www.facebook.com/duckworthparts

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annette



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PaulMc wrote:
Patrick,

From your description, I would say that you have a genuine, or OEM quality harness Thumbs Up


Justtellme wrote:
my wife is getting pretty annoyed with me having an automotive wiring loom on the bedside table while I search online


Rolling with laughter

She'd probably have a fit at the boxes of connectors, reels of cable, and Land Rover harnesses that I've got piled-up in my house Laughing

Fortunately for me, my wife has been very understanding (so far) Whistle

.


Normal, we understand electronics better than our male workmates Razz

so did you find this beauty? Come on I need this on my bedside table. I have a complete loom that is useless cause for once poxypol didn't work Fixing Land Rovers in rural Guanacaste
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geobloke



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duckworthparts wrote:
Britpart don't do their own version, only OEM

a lot of OEM parts from britpart are now re-packed into britpart boxes with OEM written under the part number.


Good to know Dan Thumbs Up
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derbywill



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I had a couple of Britpart ones and both have been OEM looms.

Cheers

Will 2005 90 XS
1954 86'' Series 1 tilt
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lightning



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Same here, it was well known that you could order the harness from Britpart and in the box was an OEM unit, for about half the price of OEM!!
I’ve done it twice.
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sandu



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PaulMc wrote:
ITT Cannon make the 8-way sealed connector -


Click image to enlarge



The injector connectors are made by TE Connectivity and could have any of the following branding on them -

AMP, Tyco, TE, or just the TE Connectivity logo.


Bosch and Delphi also make connectors that fit the injectors - but, these aren't usually used.


The OE supplier of harnesses to Land Rover are Leoni Wiring Systems.

If your injector harness was sold as 'OEM' - then it should have been made by Leoni, using quality connectors - even in a Br(Sh)itpart box.

.

Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated Mr. Green


I am just curious if these connectors could exclude the leaking problem of the injector harness?
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They all leak eventually!
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They only leak if you fail to seal them properly before installation. They will all leak if you fit them as supplied by the manufacturer, since they are being used in a way in which the manufacturer did not intend.
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Re: Td5 injector loom OEM
Justtellme wrote:
I just received subject item from Paddocks.

I ordered an OEM one and it looks pretty good relative to the ones I've seen on line but it came in a Britpart box which scares me a bit.
It has the brand name "Cannon" on the top of the main harness round connector. Normally I wouldn't expect Chinese copies to have any branding on them. Is this really an OEM manufactured one?
Interestingly it seems to have been manufactured in 2012 according to the sticker on the side.
Patrick


FWIW (And I am not defending Britpart). Because it came in a Britpart box does not mean it is not genuine . Britpart supplies OEM, genuine, and pattern parts. Generally speaking Britpart brand is pattern. Regardless, seal the plug hole with “Right stuff” sealant when you reassemble it. Thumbs Up

Food for thought. 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
2003 Range Rover Mk III (Desmond FitzWilliam)
2000 Defender 110 CSW TD5 (CTX)
1992 Range Rover Classic (Lizzy)
1972 Series III 300 Tdi (Stanwood)
1967 MGB GT

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.
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