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shropshiredefender



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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Backlash sorted

Had gearbox output shaft replaced today simply as a precaution


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Turns out to have been just in time


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There was significant wear - it seems to have been replaced before I bought it @40k miles and has done 75k since

This was the replacement


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And the final touch


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At 116K miles she is as tight as new! Thumbs Up

Post #722500 9th Aug 2018 1:47pm
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jst
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2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

If those rears wear now there is a serious problem! Cheers

James

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110 XS Utility
90 tdci Softtop

Post #722519 9th Aug 2018 3:52pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Re: Backlash sorted

shropshiredefender wrote:


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I reckon that technique would work quite well for the output adaptor shaft joint too.

Incidentally did you weld the inner face as well, or just the outer?

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shropshiredefender



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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black

Just the outer and a quality weld (not done by me and my stick welder!)
Would, I'm sure, work with the output shaft but I wasn't prepared to have that done when the Ashcroft kit was available and seems a more elegant solution.

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Cupboard



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey

do the fronts wear in the same way the rears do?

Post #722724 10th Aug 2018 6:37pm
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shropshiredefender



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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black

Personally over 5 different Land Rovers and well over 500k miles I've only had problems with the rears.

Post #722725 10th Aug 2018 6:44pm
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miker



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Rioja Red

I'll be honest, I have been tempted to weld my rears up to help with my backlash. I'd swap to one piece if I could but I'd have to replace the Salisbury axle!

Post #722731 10th Aug 2018 7:32pm
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shropshiredefender



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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black

The chap who looks after my Land Rover has 2 110s with Salisbury diffs. He welded the half shafts on both of his several years ago, the one pictured is used for heavy off roading and towing, the other is his daily driver.

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zsd-puma



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black

Cupboard wrote:
do the fronts wear in the same way the rears do?


They can do, but there's not much you can do with them, as unlike the rears there is a CV joint rather than a half shaft, so if you welded it, you'd make it extremely difficult to replace the CV joint if it failed.

Post #722742 10th Aug 2018 8:29pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

I've never (yet) had a problem with the fronts, but have got through a succession of rears. I think the fronts benefit from a certain amount of lubricant from the swivel housings, whereas the rears are as standard sealed from the axle tube and hence unlubricated.

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LR90XS2011



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green

interesting, at about 18000 miles my rears were starting to rust and were stuck to the shafts, had to use a mallet to get them off to remove them and grease them, 6000 miles later they were as I had left them with loads of grease in the cap and wet splines that slid nicely.

The fronts on both occasions were clearly in a different state and looked all lovely and lubricated.

So I expect what Blackwolf says is true

I have added removing wheels and checking them to my annual (3000mile appox) service schedule DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy

Post #722777 11th Aug 2018 6:50am
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gazman



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 90 Td5 HT Alpine White

My td5 has one piece rear shafts, was this a upgrade by land rover to stop this or has someone changed them?? 2014 - current ..... 2003 defender td5 90 (my car)
2009 - current .... 2005 zx10r

Post #722799 11th Aug 2018 9:07am
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dorsetsmith



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 90 Td5 HT Caledonian Blue

no as fitted LR factory to 2003 model in 2005 to 2006 two peace rear shaft fitted at LRJ and to end production pickup 90 TD5 2006

HT 90 TD5 2003

Post #722803 11th Aug 2018 9:17am
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custom90steve



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey

I think the rear gets a lot more weather around it, and those basic rubber caps are not waterproof and can trap water in.
I'm sure I had water into mine, as my issues started after passing a Ford in early spring.
Same thing with the Prop UJ's the nipples are fine but if ones missing the wet will go straight in.
The front axle avoids most road water but gets splashed up more at the back.

The output adaptor shaft is so commonly un-lubed as BW explained to me a few years ago it's no surprise they wear badly.
When I last had a clutch change it was okay, but I got them to lube it before putting back.
I'm sure that it wasn't originally! Watts รท Volts = Amps.
Amps X Volts = Watts

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Grenadier



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France 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Corris Grey

What warning signs should we (who've yet to join the backlash club) be looking for? Sounds, feelings, visual? Thumbs Up Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey

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