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Sulisuli



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey

Has anyone heard any news on the engine configuration in the new models? I have heard the 90 replacement model for want of a better description will only have a single engine choice whereas the 110 replacement gives you a choice of two engine types.

Seems crazy to me when most 90s are brought to tow Being a sewage diver at least I know how deep the 💩 will be at work today.
2015 HT XS 90
2008 SVX 90
2000 XS TD5 90

Post #722276 8th Aug 2018 4:09pm
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Bluest



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black

The thing is, they aren't interested in what previous customers bought 90s and 110s for. This isn't going to be a utility vehicle. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS

Post #722279 8th Aug 2018 4:23pm
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skyrover



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It needs IMO:

Full Ladder Chassis
Body sections mounted via rubber mounts
Much stronger solid axles
The current defender wheel bolt pattern
Selectable 2wd/4wd transfer case
Modular construction (pickup, soft top, hard top etc)
Easy to bolt things to, drill holes etc
Longer and wider than the current vehicle
A naturally aspirated petrol V8
No canbus system
A cable operated throttle
Removable carpets/rubber mats
Galvanized steel components

This would IMO be the best mass produced offroad vehicle on the planet and would justify land rovers claims.

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Swine&Small



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 Landmark LE Montalcino Red

^^ Rolling with laughter Whistle 2015 Defender 90"
1950 Series one 80"
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Quod Abundat Non Obstat.

Post #722516 9th Aug 2018 3:31pm
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isacs



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Jeep wrangler anyone?

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custom90steve



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey

Nothing with with a bit of 🇺🇸 muscle.

Currently if I had to choose I'd be much more interested in the Wrangler and it's following, much more what we are used to as well! Watts ÷ Volts = Amps.
Amps X Volts = Watts

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Joe the Plumber



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2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 HT Fuji White

There's a four page article on the new Defender in Autocar this week.

Apparently, prices for the most basic model (Defender 90) will start from a little under £40,000.

When I think my 110 van cost me just under £24000 new in early 2014, that will immediately mean I have no interest at all in the new ones, whatever they're like.

And, just like most (no, bother it, every) current LR model, if Autocar's speculative images are correct, as I'm a plumber and not a hairdresser, I wouldn't be interested even if I could afford one.

Oh, and apparently they won't be out until April 2020 at the earliest.

If Autocar are right, all LR are doing is bringing out yet another up-market Chelsea tractor that this time looks a bit like the old Land Rovers used to (remember them...?)

However, if you buy AutoExpress as well this week, the new Suzuki Jimny they've driven, at approximately £13,500, looks much more like it.

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J@mes



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skyrover wrote:
It needs IMO:

Full Ladder Chassis
Body sections mounted via rubber mounts
Much stronger solid axles
The current defender wheel bolt pattern
Selectable 2wd/4wd transfer case
Modular construction (pickup, soft top, hard top etc)
Easy to bolt things to, drill holes etc
Longer and wider than the current vehicle
A naturally aspirated petrol V8
No canbus system
A cable operated throttle
Removable carpets/rubber mats
Galvanized steel components

This would IMO be the best mass produced offroad vehicle on the planet and would justify land rovers claims.


1940 called, they want their spec sheet back Mr. Green

Post #722570 9th Aug 2018 8:00pm
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skyrover



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If it ain't broke and all that Very Happy

Seriously though, if your into serious offloading, overlanding etc etc, this is your shopping list.

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Bluest



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black

Sadly the likelihood of anything meeting that shopping list is decreasing, not increasing. What’s the nearest thing still available to your checklist? 70 Series ‘Cruiser? 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS

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Freypal



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 90 Td5 Silver LE Zambezi Silver

Joe the Plumber wrote:
There's a four page article on the new Defender in Autocar this week.

Apparently, prices for the most basic model (Defender 90) will start from a little under £40,000.

When I think my 110 van cost me just under £24000 new in early 2014, that will immediately mean I have no interest at all in the new ones, whatever they're like.

And, just like most (no, bother it, every) current LR model, if Autocar's speculative images are correct, as I'm a plumber and not a hairdresser, I wouldn't be interested even if I could afford one.

Oh, and apparently they won't be out until April 2020 at the earliest.

If Autocar are right, all LR are doing is bringing out yet another up-market Chelsea tractor that this time looks a bit like the old Land Rovers used to (remember them...?)

However, if you buy AutoExpress as well this week, the new Suzuki Jimny they've driven, at approximately £13,500, looks much more like it.


Was there any mention in the article as a source for this? Or is it all pure conjecture on their part? It does sound entirely believable however.

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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

skyrover wrote:
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Selectable 2wd/4wd transfer case
...


Why? That would be a MASSIVE retrograde step and would remove one of the near unique selling points of the Defender. It is the single factor which most puts me off vehicles such as the Ranger as an alternative.

Full-time 4WD is a definite plus.

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skyrover



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Land Rover introduced full time 4wd as they did not want to spend the money upgrading their axles.

So instead of sending 100% power to the back, it was split 50/50 allowing them to retain swiss cheese axles while introducing more powerful engines.

It was marketed as a feature.

Full time 4wd is not necessary for everyday tarmac driving and has an impact on fuel economy and wear/tear.


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Post #722679 10th Aug 2018 2:41pm
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skyrover



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Bluest wrote:
Sadly the likelihood of anything meeting that shopping list is decreasing, not increasing. What’s the nearest thing still available to your checklist? 70 Series ‘Cruiser?


The current Jeep wrangler meets most of those requirements but falls short in the payload/utility area.

Jeep will be rectifying this in the near future with commercial/pickup versions.

The Suzuki Jimny also meets most of the requirements but is much too small.

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Freypal



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 90 Td5 Silver LE Zambezi Silver

Just had a look and to be fair the Wrangler starts at just under 40k too...

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