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Imax



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Wiring help for 12V battery to sockets?
I am getting a 12V leisure battery wired in soon. As part of this I am also adding a couple of 12V and USB sockets to run a cool box and other things I may need for short trips away e.g. phone charging, iPad etc

Is anyone able to advise what gauge wire I need to run to the 12V and USB sockets? I know it is twin cable I need for the positive and negative.

Below are the power figures for the Waeco CF-26 cool box I am looking for...

Power input
approx. 35 W

Current consumption
0.44 Ah/h at +20 °C ambient temperature, 0.67 Ah/h at +32 °C ambient temperature, both at +5 °C interior temperature
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rallysteve



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I suggest a 20A power socket (like a cigarette lighter) with a 20A fuse and 2mm^2 thinwall cable.

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As above an the Bluesea sockets are very good. 👍🏻 Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
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Imax



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Thanks for the info - Looks like I might go with recommended 12V sockets you suggested. I did get some others but the Bluesea sockets look good.

Cheers
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I love the way the current draw is quoted in Amp-hours per hour! That would be Amps, then.
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OK I am somewhat confused by the Waeco figures.

If it requires 35 Watts on a nominal 12V dc supply that is 2.91 Amps. Is it then saying it consumes 0.67 A in operation?

Seems a low amount for a fridge cooling to 5 deg. Is the 2.9 Amps the draw when it is freezing to -18 ? 1995 Defender 110 CSW
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That's because compressor fridges operate intermittently. The lower figure will be an approximate average. Darren

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Try this site:

https://www.12voltplanet.co.uk/cable-sizing-selection.html

You can feed in current draw and size of wire and it will give you the voltage drop over distance. Depending how far your sockets are from the battery you may need to go up a size. Always add in a good safety factor on the size of wire. Too many systems are designed with cables sizes too small for the distance and you end up with insufficient voltage / current at the end.
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Imax



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Thank you for the info - I had a chat with a local company who generally do VW conversions and they said the same regarding the wire. Just need to get my Blue Sea sockets order and my cool box to be wired in on the 11 July.

First short trip planned for the weekend after...
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Imax



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Leisure battery installed along with some blue sea sockets - the blue sea sockets are much better than the others I had purchased. Also had to purchase a dedicated 20amp socket for the cool box.
Battery has been installed under the new load area which has worked well and they have been able to use existing access points for cables etc.
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