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big ives



Member Since: 24 Dec 2013
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low idle rpm
The idle on my V8 has just started to idle at 400rpm, the engine doesn’t stall.

its a 3.9efi engine

What would cause this to happen just out of the blue?

No major changes or any work carried out recently so what would I look for? 2016 Discovery 4
1989 90 CSW V8 (fully rebuilt and running like a dream)
1996 defender tray back fully rebuilt/loaded for challenge events
Post #680848 22nd Jan 2018 9:13pm
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Devon-Rover



Member Since: 22 Jan 2015
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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Aintree Green
The Idle system is fairly basic on the 3.9 and changes to idle can usually be associated to a variation on airflow into the engine.

The engine works on the basic principal that it see's X airflow through the MAF sensor it knows the throttle position on the intake butterfly and it knows that certain amount is sent through the bypass hose and past the IACV (the stepper motor valve on the back of the plenum) this gives a Y airflow amount and it injects Z amount of fuel to hit the determined engine speed 700 ish RPM ~ 50

So I would check that there isn't any air leaks but TBH they usually cause uneven idle rather than a flat steady abeit lower one.

On cold startup the revs should climb and you should hear it step down in stages down to idle when warmed. The IACV will move in and out to vary the amount of air and thus the idle speed.

You could just reset the Base idle and assume all is well but to me they don't just change because they feel like it.

It is a long days work but if you don't know the history of the engine then maybe it'll be a good idea to go through all know associates to check all is in order.

Soo:

Engine breathers clean.
Bypass hose is sealed and not gone hard so possible leaks.
Vac hose to FPR is sealing and not gone hard.
IACV works freely
Distributor vac advance working fine
Distributor static timing correct.

Finding something amiss means really rectifying it and start from the top with getting all the settings right and the base Idle set.

I could write it out but this link spells it out well. http://www.roverparts.com/TechTips/base_id...cedure.cfm Also can be found on Fb, Ytube, Insta & Twitter @4WDSouthwest
Post #680900 22nd Jan 2018 10:20pm
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Romadog



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As well as the above make sure that your battery is fully charged and holding its charge as this can affect the sensors working correctly.
Post #681155 23rd Jan 2018 9:17pm
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big ives



Member Since: 24 Dec 2013
Location: Northern Ireland
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Romadog

U wouldn't believe this hadn't read your post until tonight however today after checking what Devon_rover suggested l decided to swap my battery as the deep cycle oddessy I had in her seemed to be down in volts

I know it not the alternator as its only been replaced last month Thumbs Up

Anyway another oddessy battery which was fully charged fitted and she's running sweet

Checked for battery drain fully charged battery getting 0.03 amps on the meter

Can't believe a low battery would make her run low rpm Bow down Bow down 2016 Discovery 4
1989 90 CSW V8 (fully rebuilt and running like a dream)
1996 defender tray back fully rebuilt/loaded for challenge events
Post #681224 24th Jan 2018 12:32am
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