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AndyTunn

Member Since: 10 Jan 2015
Location: Auckland
Posts: 313

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey

Connector problems

My reverse light has stopped working. So far I have:
1. Swapped reverse and fog light and proved that the light itself and the bulb is OK.
2. Checked the fuse is OK.
3. The reverse light is plugged into a Mudstuff piggy-back loom to feed out to the work light, but I've checked that is OK too.

My next step was to check the reverse light switch at the gearbox. Using the tips on this thread (although I can't get the photos to work) I've found the switch via the access panel under the cubby box.

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The switch seems to be properly tightened up.

My plan was to remove the connector from the back of the switch and check if I could get the circuit to work by by-passing the mechanical switch but I can't work out how to get the connector off!

I know it's a "squeeze to release" connector of some sort, but I can't work out which bit I need to squeeze! I've tried just about every part I can but it all seems totally solid - no obvious give anywhere. Access is really tight so maybe I'm just not getting enough pressure to the right bit.

Does anyone know how this type of connector works?

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14th Feb 2015 2:20am

AndyTunn

Member Since: 10 Jan 2015
Location: Auckland
Posts: 313

Got it!

Had a cup of tea and a think and tried again. This time I got it, and when I short circuited the connector everything worked as it should. Looks like I need a new mechanical switch then!

14th Feb 2015 3:12am

landy andy

Member Since: 15 Feb 2009
Location: Ware, Herts
Posts: 5416

2006 Defender 110 Td5 USW Zermatt Silver

Think I need new switch as mine doesn't work either. Great, and I don't want to remove interior, so will just struggle and try from underneath.

Andy.

14th Feb 2015 6:05pm

munch90

Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: guildford
Posts: 3558

mine played up

took old one out and it was full of oil , then found gearbox was overfill

did get the switch working by washing it out , but replaced anyway

bit of a pig to get at from underneath , but doable

14th Feb 2015 6:14pm

jonesie

Member Since: 25 Sep 2011
Location: Petworth
Posts: 231

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Corris Grey

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Cleaned my switch today all seems fine now I did ponder doing the job though because I didn't have a stubby 22mm spanner......
However much trawling later I found the perfect tool and guess what?
It cost £1.50 from screw fix ( nothing these days costs £1.50! )
Bottom line get one of these spanners.
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18th Oct 2015 8:25pm

cinqetoiles

Member Since: 31 Jul 2012
Location: Belgium
Posts: 4

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Did it entirely from underneath.
The trick is to find the right position for your arm.
See picture.
Quick job, as there was nothing to dismantle.

1st Jul 2016 11:14am

meeerrrk

Member Since: 12 Feb 2017
Location: Surrey
Posts: 548

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey

blackwolf wrote:
Sorry, no photos. The switch is very well hidden!

The workshop manual for the Puma says that to get to the switch you ned to remove the gear levers and then the floor panel that forms the transmission tunnel, but this looks to me to be a real PITA, especially with carpets in the way.

The - much easier - way I got at mine was to remove the cubby box between the seats, peel back the carpet on the seat box (there are two pieces of carpet on the box, one on the right and one the left, so there is a longitudinal join at the cetnre - very handy) then remove the access panel in the box itself (five screws, then 'break' the sealant to lift the panel out).

The reverse light switch can then be seen (if you stick your head in the hole between the seats) and accessed with a 22mm open-ended spanner. It is located on the top left hand side of the gearbox, perhaps two or three inches forward from the front of the seat box. The switch is clearly visible, and it is the only switch in the vicinty so you can't really mistake it. It still isn't easy to get at, but it is at least possible.

The connector on the switch has one of those press-to-release-a-catch type clips, so squeeze the flat sides together with your fingers before pulling.

Hope this helps.

Thanks for all the advice in this thread, espically blackwolf, new switch fitted and seems to have cured my intermittent light. My 90 Project : http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic52774.html

17th Nov 2017 10:05am

Essex Lad

Member Since: 15 Jan 2018
Location: Brentwood, Essex
Posts: 1

I just had the same reversing light switch issue with my Puma 90 2.2 hard top. Couldn't get close to it from below so took the gearbox tunnel off from the inside. It only took 1 and a half hours to replace the switch (22 mm spanner) but I have rubber mats so it could be more difficult if you have carpets fitted. Mine has only covered 15k miles so no idea why such a simple switch should fail like this but it had ford stamped on it so I suppose that's the reason!

Not a difficult job, hardest part was removing the rubber mat from around sticks and hand break.

Here are a couple of photos showing the switch with the tunnel removed.

15th Jan 2018 2:01pm

X4SKP

Member Since: 29 Nov 2013
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 2287

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey

Hello All

Well mines gone the same way (probably) 2010 2.4 50K... intermittent then nothing.
Been Reversing with Hazards for a week or so (not ideal)
Fuse + Bulb OK so hoping that its a 'simple' Switch Swap Out...

Just as an Update
LR Part Number for a Reverse Light Switch MT82 Transmission 2007-2016
Was LR005160...

Now LR077773 SKIP
https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html

16th Dec 2021 11:05am

LandRoverAnorak

Member Since: 17 Jul 2011
Location: Surrey
Posts: 11240

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey

This came up on another thread a few days ago. With a bit of perseverance, the switch can be changed from the panel under cubby box. More details here:

https://www.defender2.net/forum/post733726.html#733726 Darren

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16th Dec 2021 11:29am

X4SKP

Member Since: 29 Nov 2013
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 2287

Thanks LRA Darren

I saw this subject on Conâ€fuseâ€ion! but the link to your story is really helpful...

This is going to be my way in also, I think I have a (thin) stubby 22mm Spanner
in my Cycle Tools but if not a bit of Tool 'adjustment' also looks imminent... SKIP
https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html

16th Dec 2021 11:59am

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