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greenlandrover



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
Headlight & spotlights loom
As is well documented on here, the Red Bison loom upgrade is a worthwhile exercise.

However I want to fit some driving lamps too so that's another loom!

Decided to make my own combined headlight upgrade and driving lamps loom using 3 relays, the standard Land Rover Dash switch (YUG000540LNF?).

Found this lovely little waterproof relay/fuse box that looks ideal: -


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Got mine from Mouser http://www.mouser.co.uk/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=PDM31001ZXM

Also bought a load of cable from http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/sect...wall-cable

This means I'll have a Red Bison loom and genuine driving lamps loom up for sale soon! Thumbs Up
Post #645026 19th Aug 2017 10:53am
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custom90



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Looks good, how are you fusing and getting your feed from?
Inline maste fuse near alternator?

I'd be inclined to fit Relays with Diode also whilst you are at it.
Will keep voltage strikes surpressed in the main loom.

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I would have done similar but I needed my spotlight and headlight supplies in different locations.

Are the cable entries underneath waterproof? Diesels Lives Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️
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Post #645031 19th Aug 2017 11:09am
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greenlandrover



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Hi Steve,

I was going to run a feed from the battery (fused at that end) but I'd welcome a way of connecting it to the alternator for a shorter cable run Thumbs Up Do you have any pics of your installation please?

Diodes on the coils is sound advice Bow down I have a feeling the relays I've ordered have them built in.

The bottom of the fuse box has rubber 'bungs' to waterproof the connections: -


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They'll also be getting a liberal dose of silicone grease too Thumbs Up
Post #645037 19th Aug 2017 11:51am
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custom90



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Headlight Relays:

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Spotlight Relay:


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They are using the Land Reiziger loom, however, you need to adjust the wiring to suit these relays I have.
(Swap trigger and earth feeds due to the Diode.)

They aren't waterproof but I don't intend to be wading anyway, the alternator stud and headlight plug after all are not waterproof anyway.

They are both fed directly from the 8mm alternator post, the spotlight loom using 6mm2 so very very little voltage drop.
It's not to awkward to get at but you do need the torque figure, for the bolt and stud. I'm pretty sure I listed it on here somewhere.
There is room I'd say for three ring terminals or two if they are large.

Spotlights I am converting over to HID, so will draw a fair bit if power.
I'm running LED Noldens for headlights, which are voltage regulated but the loom provides full voltage at charging current with very little losses.
The main benefit if you are using LED's is the mA load through the main light switch.
As well as the stalk.
The Diodes create very very very little delay on flash, at least these do. So little you'd not even notice.
I'd definitely recommend Durite, they are very good quality and you do not want cheap Relays on critical items.

If anyone wanted these like mine they are rated at 40A each and the P/N is printed on the front of them. Diesels Lives Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️
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greenlandrover



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Brilliant thank you Thumbs Up (no pun intended! Laughing ) Looks like a quality job Thumbs Up

Looks like a neat installation. The relays are quality items too.

I've got Wipac crystal headlights with Nightbreakers so they'll be using around 5A a piece. I think the cable I've ordered is rated at 20A per run so should be little volt drop.

The spotlights are Warn LED jobs and they take about 4A so I'll use the same cable for them. The feed to the fuse box from the (now) alternator will be 57A cable via a 40A fuse. Think that should be ok.

I'll also have to run a length of cable for the dashboard switch. That's fairky low current in comparison but I'll probably end up using the same wire as I've got a job lot.

Thanks again for your advice Thumbs Up


Cheers,

Jason
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X4SKP



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Hello All

I am about to install two Auxiliary Driving Lamps (Spot Lights) and wanted to check that my assumptions form the various advice on D2N (thanks) is correct, and I have interpreted everything correctly.

Im installing X2 55W Halogen Spot / Driving Lamps with H3 Bulbs...(Boxed and unused Spots intended to be fitted to an XR2 / 3... remember those).

I want to have them operate only on High Beam, or when the Main Headlamps are Flashed, with the additional feature of being able to isolate / switch off the Auxiliary Driving Lamps, via a new LR Dashboard X2 Aux Light Switch (for Fog or Driving Lamps)...so I would describe this as a standard set up.

After much (well some) thought Ive decided not to go with the OEM LR Driving Lamps Loom and Dashboard Switch as this is typically > 135 - 164, and looks to me to be just too expensive for what it is (STC 53208).

The LR OEM X2 Aux Light Switch (YUG000540LNF) is around 54.00 on its own, and this again just feels too expensive, even if OEM, I may be proved wrong but currently I'm going down the DIY Route

LR Wiring Loom 53208
https://topix.landrover.jlrext.com/topix/service/document/70573

So Im going to use a factored / cloned Switch (as see if it lasts) and my own Wiring Loom and Relay
and have 5 questions...for those who might know, or have gone down a similar path...

Auxiliary Driving Lamps
This wiring Diagram illustration appears on D2N a few times...
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic552.html?start=18

Switch Fascia / YUG000540LNF Wiring Diagram

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Can i confirm that this wiring arrangement will result is the Driving Lamps working in the following way...

1 The Auxiliary Lights will only be activated when the Main Head Lights are on (switched) to Full Beam and when the Main Headlights are Flashed Question
2 The Auxiliary Lights can be switched off via the Dash Switch (YUG000540LNF) Question
also...
3 Can I confirm that the Feed / Trigger Wire (No. 86 on Relay) could be taken from the High Beam Warning Lamp Wire behind the TDCi Bashboard Binnacle, this looks to be shown as the Blue Orange Wire (ref TDCi Driving Lamp Kit LR006815) Question


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4 Can I also confirm that the +12V Dash Illumination Wire (No.2 on the X2 Aux Switch) can be taken (connected to) any of the Red - Orange feed wires, to other illuminated (similar) Dashboard Switches Question

This is the X2 Aux Lighting Switch Im going for...
Bearmach Land Rover Defender 2002 On Fog Spot Light Switch & Plug - YUG000540LNF
(apparently ...LNF denotes the Ash Grey Colour of the Standard Switches)
This comes complete with the rear Tyco/AMP (like) Connector...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bearmach-Land-Ro...100623.m-1


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5 Lastly my intention is to use a Durite 30A Relay
https://www.arc-components.com/0-727-12-du...-2153.html
0-727-12 Durite 12V 30A Mini Make and Break Relay...

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Is there any advantage to up this spec to a Durite 40A Relay
https://www.arc-components.com/0-727-16-du...-2161.html
to give...
0-727-16 Durite 12V 40A Mini Make and Break Relay with Diode Question


Thanks... Thumbs Up SKIP
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LandRoverAnorak



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1 - Yes
2 - Yes
5 - No, neither the diode nor the higher rating will give any additional benefit for this application

Can't help with 3 and 4, I'm afraid, as I'm not familiar with the wiring colours. Darren

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LandRoverAnorak



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey
1 - Yes
2 - Yes
5 - No, neither the diode nor the higher rating will give any additional benefit for this application

Can't help with 3 and 4, I'm afraid, as I'm not familiar with the wiring colours. Darren

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Martin
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3 - yes it's blue/orange For the high beam telltale
4 - yes any red/orange  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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X4SKP



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LRA and Martin thanks very much... Thumbs Up SKIP
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Fiebre



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Hello guys,
I loose this part of my spotlight kit (I attach a photo). Do you know what is the part number?
If not I can build it. As far as I know the connector is the part number YPC10523 but i don't know the section of each wire, maybe 1mm^2. One is black and the other shold be red/orange.
Can you help me?

Thanks!!
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Martin
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Yes it is YPC10523, I can supply it: https://www.defender2.net/shop/5-way-defen...6-p71.html

A wire size of 0.5mm² will be fine.

I can supply YPC10523 with black and red/yellow like original (I don't have red/orange) 0.5mm² wires attached already if you like?

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