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ChrisCM



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Santorini Black
Rear Brake Discs
I am about to renew the rear brake discs/pads on my 2010 110 SW. A few questions.

I do not intend to renew the hub bearings as they seem fine. When I re-assemble do I repack the bearings with grease or just put it back the way I found it? Do I need to get a selection of shims for correcting the end float (if any) or should what's there be reused and just torqued up correctly. Other than the hub stake nut do I need to replace any other fixings such as calliper bolts, disc to hub bolts or ABS reactor ring to disc bolts.

If this goes well I shall do the fronts as well, same questions for those.

Thanks,

Chris 2010 Defender 110 Station Wagon, Santorini Black.
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blackwolf



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If the bearings are all OK, then you would be well advised to repack them.

You will need a new hub oil seal (you can't get the inner race of the inner bearing out of the hub without disturbing the seal). If you are reassembling the bearings in their original format you will need a new stake nut (if you wanted to change to the older, two-nut, system, then you'd need the two nuts and the tab washer to fit between them). Provided that the bearings go back in their original positions (important!) and they are not worn, the original spacer can be reused. Do not disturb the outer races (in the hub), just wipe all the old lube out and repack with a suitable litium based grease. If you convert to the two nut system, discard the spacer and adjust the bearings correctly.

You shouldn't need to replace any of the bolts, however you will need threadlock for most of them when reassembling.

For this job, the front and rear hubs are treated in the same way.

When you do the rears, if you unclip the brake pipes from the axle tube there is enough flex in the pipe to hang the caliper out of the way without disconnecting the hydraulic lines.

When you do the fronts, if you carefully slot the brackets that are attached to the top swivel pin and that hold the outboard end of the brake hoses where they connect to the short pipes to the calipers (which can be done without disconnecting the brake lines) then you can release the calipers and hang them clear without disturbing the top swivel pin and without disconnecting the brakes lines. It is a little fiddly to do, and needs to be done carefully, but saves a lot of hassle in the future.
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ChrisCM



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Santorini Black
Many thanks blackwolf, as always a great source of information and help. When you say put the bearings back in their original position should I mark the races to ensure they sit in the same position or do you mean don't mix up the inners and outers.

Chris 2010 Defender 110 Station Wagon, Santorini Black.
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blackwolf



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Don't mix the inner and outer bearings.
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greenlandrover



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I'm about to do a similar thing and started this thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56045.html

Might be of interest to you Chris. I'm probably going to change the driveshaft flanges at the same time. Not too sure about replacing halfshafts with older single piece items.

Thank you blackwolf for your advice. I shall be taking it when I do my discs Thumbs Up
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blackwolf



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^^ The single piece halfshafts are actually newer (as well as older) since LR reverted to them with the runout models. Having fitted a set to my Defender recently, I have to say that they do help reduce backlash. The only downside is the shocking price of new genuine parts (about £600 the pair). Shocked
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greenlandrover



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What do think about using ones from scrap yard donor Defenders/Discos?
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Mo Murphy



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No harm in using old one piece half shafts providing they are undamaged.

Mo The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen.
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tuesdayfox



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blackwolf wrote:
Don't mix the inner and outer bearings.


Curious why?
aren't they the same?
Thanks
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williamthedog



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Because they've matched themselves to that particular outer race.
Post #655547 7th Oct 2017 7:28am
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