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fondelli



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TD5 cooling system pressurising
Here is my first post. I recently bought a 90 TD5 as my first Defender. It drove fine on the journey home- about 200 miles. The next morning I got up and re-checked all the levels and I had to add about 4 litres of coolant. There is no overheating (yet). So far the focus has been on peripheral things (cap, tank, rad, thermostat). However the problem still exists. There is no sign of fluid cross contamination- but I am now thinking head gasket? Any thoughts from TD5 experts?
Post #643111 11th Aug 2017 7:36am
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diesel_jim



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Head gasket or crack in the head Sad
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fondelli



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Thanks- Is there any difference in the level of pressure created by both issues- ie is one normally greater than the other?
Post #643118 11th Aug 2017 8:08am
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During last 2 year I was repairing several TD5 with coolant loss - typical is bad hose clips, chuffed hoses, bad expansion cap or another leak. And because of the placement of hoses, the leaking coolant can fully evaporate without any drips od road.
My solution, how to find this, was to disconnect the thin tube from expansion bottle and pressurize the cooling system with air up to aprox. 1 Bar. Without running engine, I can hear and see some drops or escaping air.
So try this first, before dismantling engine. Start with only 0,5 Bar of air pressure.

In the expansion bottle cap, there is a valve, opening at 1,4 Bar. "Drobek" = The Small One - Discovery 2, "BlufĂ­nek" = The Blue Thing - Defender 130, and for me at least Ford Mondeo Smile
Post #643119 11th Aug 2017 8:22am
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fondelli



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Thanks for this- expansion tank/cap are new.
Post #643126 11th Aug 2017 8:35am
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stigomery



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You say the cooling system is pressurising? If you run the engine, then let it cool down, and then open the expansion tank, is it pressurised when cold? If yes, that's you head gasket I'm afraid.

Get a garage to "sniff" the coolant, a quick check and they'll soon tell you if the coolant is contiminated.

Had exactly the same issue with my Td5 at 90k miles
Post #643127 11th Aug 2017 8:44am
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fondelli



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Thanks to everyone - so far. Will investigate further. I just want to rule out any peripheral issues before the head comes off.
Post #643141 11th Aug 2017 10:43am
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Tommo



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Hi mate, I'm sure you know this but make sure it is OAT (red) coolant when you fill up Thumbs Up
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fondelli



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update
Well- latest is that head came off and was pressure tested. A nice crack in one of the ports- so not the usual place. New head needed.
Post #646123 24th Aug 2017 7:13pm
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stigomery



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Bummer mate, I dread to think how much I've forked out in the first 18 months of ownership! Right now I'm praying I ain't got more trouble with my own head.
Post #646142 24th Aug 2017 8:32pm
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