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stigomery



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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 90 Td5 HT Belize Green
Towing electrics
I know this topic has been covered a lot so apologies. The indicators work but nothing else. I'm getting about 5v to the tail lights, 7v to the stop lights and about 10v to the indicators.

I'm going to throw a new socket on but those readings are taken from the bare wires.

Thoughts?

Thanks
Post #637649 15th Jul 2017 3:35pm
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mk1collector



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England 2004 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Bonatti Grey
Is the grey plug that connects the tow socket wiring to the loom (under the drivers side rear arch at the back) clean and free from corrosion? Ray
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Post #637688 15th Jul 2017 6:30pm
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stigomery



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I can't find this grey plug. It's a TD5 and the loom seems to go striaght into the chassis in front of the fuel tank and I assume pops up somewhere at the front.

Fitted a new socket and still getting 4.6v to the side lights.

This is mighty frustrating
Post #637793 16th Jul 2017 1:50pm
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Rashers



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Have you checked the earth? Could be a poor earth connection?
Post #637794 16th Jul 2017 2:08pm
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mk1collector



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England 2004 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Bonatti Grey
stigomery wrote:
I can't find this grey plug. It's a TD5 and the loom seems to go striaght into the chassis in front of the fuel tank and I assume pops up somewhere at the front.

Fitted a new socket and still getting 4.6v to the side lights.

This is mighty frustrating


There should be a grey plug behind a plastic shield right above the rear crossmember at the back of the wheelarch, sort of behind the fog light. Ray
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Post #637795 16th Jul 2017 2:13pm
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stigomery



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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 90 Td5 HT Belize Green
Thanks. Had a poke in behind that panel and there's definitely no connector. The cabling splits in a Y coming out of the chassis going to towing electrics and driver's side light cluster.

Any idea where it comes up at the front of the vehicle and I can check voltages there?

I assume earth is good since the indicators work.
Post #637812 16th Jul 2017 3:39pm
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stigomery



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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 90 Td5 HT Belize Green
Update -definitely not an earth problem, ran a cable direct to the battery -ve terminal and still only getting just over 4v from the side-lights pins.

I have LED lights fitted (except main headlights) - I assume this won 't be causing the issue (and I seem to recall similar problem prior to installing the LED sidelights).

Thanks
Post #637961 17th Jul 2017 11:40am
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stigomery



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Well I've been back at it again... and... I found something... not a nice grey box @mk1 but this fine craftsmanship...


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So let's take it apart... mmmmm... beautiful twisted pairs...


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It gets better...


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Well... needless to say, thanks to you @mk1 for setting me on the right track...

I NOW HAVE FULLY OPERATIONAL TOWING LIGHTS...

We can now go on holiday... phew!
Post #638067 17th Jul 2017 8:09pm
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mk1collector



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Shocked wow, that's quality workmanship right there. At least when you've fixed it you'll know it's a good job Thumbs Up Ray
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V8GPC



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are you going to show us the quality of your repair? Whistle
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blackwolf



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This does seem to be a common problem with Defenders that have at some stage been owned by a cheapskate who thinks that is it more sensible to butcher the harness than to buy the correct 'plug & play' towing socket kit. I found the same thing on mine (although I still had the grey connector, it just had most of the wires cut and was hanging by a thread). It is annoying since it is virtually impossible to revert to the 'proper' connector once this vandalism has been done.

I also can't help but think that any saving in parts is more that outweighed if the then paid someone to wire up the socket.
Post #638172 18th Jul 2017 9:00am
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stigomery



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V8GPC wrote:
are you going to show us the quality of your repair? Whistle


Ha ha, not on your nelly... it was a quick fix to get through the holiday. I had to strip back the wires as they were badly corroded, cleaned up, crimped, insulated and gaffered... I will locate and purchase a proper connector when I get back!
Post #638177 18th Jul 2017 9:11am
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zsd-puma



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
the great thing about the genuine Land Rover harnesses is the back of the towing socket is sealed with glue, to make it water proof too.

Bodged towing electrics isn't unique to Defenders really, i've seen so many cars were people have just bought a cheap generic kits and scotch locked the wiring into the tail lights, it never lasts.
Post #638241 18th Jul 2017 2:25pm
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Thon



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The sealing is extremely useful I agree - particularly if you're a slob like me with the socket hanging upside down off a skanky cable tie because I didn't have time to fit the correct drop plate yet .... Laughing
Post #638255 18th Jul 2017 4:21pm
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