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quantumfoam

Member Since: 20 May 2016
Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Posts: 12

Defender 90 not starting and dash lights remaining on

Couple of days back I tried to start my 1998 defender (300tdi) and all I heard was a click from the starter motor and the engine not turning. I also noticed that even with the key out of the ignition the dash lights (oil, battery, fuel, handbrake) remained on. Even when I disconnected the ignition switch connections the lights stayed on???. Fortunately I have a battery isolator so I can turn everything off when not checking things. I have checked the starter motor earths, fuses, given it a tap with a hammer but the problem remains. The battery is fairly new and its green light is showing so OK. Anyone have any ideas as my landy is now static until I can get it started

5th Jan 2017 1:11pm

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

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have you checked chaise to body work earth right side underneath

sounds as if you have short cct

5th Jan 2017 1:59pm

quantumfoam

Member Since: 20 May 2016
Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Posts: 12

I am going to check and clean all earths again tomorrow but I think maybe I do have a short somewhere as even with all the starter motor cables disconnected and no key in the dash lights still come on

5th Jan 2017 2:59pm

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

the dash lights (oil, battery, fuel, handbrake) all feed from ignition switch connections white wire as per drawing the other thing is the Alternator ex wire can back feed if alternator has failed and diode g126 fail

In the past glow plug time has failed shorted out and it has two feeds and it back feed to the white wire

5th Jan 2017 5:26pm

quantumfoam

Member Since: 20 May 2016
Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Posts: 12

Well it took me two days to remove the engine side bolt that held the starter motor on. In the end a cold chisel and specially modified spanner got it moving. Getting it out was a pain in the neck. Bench tested the starter motor and the solenoid works and pushes out the gear but the gear end does not spin which I presume it should (to turn the flywheel). Took the end cap off and the brushes look so I am assuming its something more internal that is preventing the gear spinning. I think I will invest in a new starter motor as I really don't want to get this one working then find in a couple of weeks I end up with the same problem. What do you think?

Also while I order and wait for the new started motor I will begin tracing the electrical fault and let you and the others know what I find. I am however buying a new ignition switch (end part) just to be on the safe side as they are quite cheap.

Just to say I appreciate the help and advice

8th Jan 2017 12:28pm

quantumfoam

Member Since: 20 May 2016
Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Posts: 12

Hi everyone. Just to let you know the new starter fitted and Landy fired up no problem. Before starting I did however remove a single electrical wire attached direct from the battery to the raptor panel that previous owner had installed. Once this was removed no dash lights showing and all seems well. So I only need to trace the problem with that single wire. Also fitted a new ignition switch just to be on the safe side. Thanks for all the help

15th Jan 2017 2:28pm

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