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xcentric



Member Since: 17 Jan 2016
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best immobiliser for 200tdi
Have to fix starter motor issues with my new to me 200tdi, and the immobiliser is somewhat old, hard to disable, and potentially flakey, so am thinking its a good time to change that too. What's the current view as to the best choice out there for such a vehicle? I know about layering security, and that it's harder to immobilise because it's not got engine management etc, but it's at least another layer..... something that allowed turnover but not start seems a good idea - so more fuel ump than starter, I'm thinking, but that may be too advanced for the sorts of systems that are available for a 200tdi!! Laughing

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Post #582983 6th Dec 2016 12:44am
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ickle



Member Since: 22 Jul 2010
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France 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Alpine White
A simple mechanical fuel tap on the line from the tank
It'll start but be within a few hundred yards when it conks!
Post #582998 6th Dec 2016 7:57am
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Anderzander



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Other than the glowplugs there are really only two wires to the engine - the starter and it's solenoid and the stop solenoid..... you could put a switch in one of those.......
Post #583004 6th Dec 2016 8:20am
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geobloke



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As above really, stop solenoid or starter or traditional battery cut off or something mechanical (fuel cut off or clutch hydraulic switch).

The easiest is the Stop solenoid: you can be dead sneaky with where you put the switch and it is a dead easy install. It is a femal spade connector, so create a loom that has a male spade on one end and a female on the other, switch in the middle (routed to that sneaky place no one else knows about), plug it in and bobs your uncles sister-in-law.

I do really miss the simplicity of the 200 sometimes, actually especially at the moment... TD5 is clinically brain dead... 😭😢
Post #583008 6th Dec 2016 8:46am
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shaggydog



Member Since: 12 Aug 2012
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United Kingdom 1991 Defender 110 200 Tdi USW Arles Blue
As above really.

I would say with Tdi engined defenders it is far more important to invest in lumps of metal (xeng gear lock, peddle lock, ignition shroud) and a good tracker than fancy electrical immobilisers and bits of kit as there is so little wiring on them to begin with anything extra will stick out like a sore thumb and is very quickly beaten.

I'm not saying don't do it, by all means the more layers the better but if you have a budget, I would put it lower down the list than other physical lumps first. Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197

Self confessed mileage hunter Very Happy
Post #583058 6th Dec 2016 1:37pm
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Huttopia



Member Since: 23 Feb 2016
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Have a look at your switch rack and see if there are any blanks. Put a switch in a blank (ideally a second hand switch) that is wired to stop the engine from firing but still allows it to turn over. The noise of a 200tdi is enough to wake the dead so having it crank repeatedly on the drive should be enough!
Post #583086 6th Dec 2016 3:52pm
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Tiger



Member Since: 06 Jul 2012
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2004 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Java Black
Pre-puma Defenders have a sneaky switch hole under the RHS of the instrument cluster.

See here

Click image to enlarge


Most of the old Austin/Rover switches fit in it.

Like this one for £8


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLASSIC-MINI-HEA...Sw2s1UyrUp
Post #583089 6th Dec 2016 4:05pm
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xcentric



Member Since: 17 Jan 2016
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nice, thanks.
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ickle



Member Since: 22 Jul 2010
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France 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Alpine White
If you could sort out a simple timer that connected to a change over relay- say 5 seconds or so - that initially allowed it to start and then cut the fuel off and swapped the feed to a sounder, an immobilised LR in the middle of the road blowing a horn should attract attention!
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dorsetsmith



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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Wolf-...Swa~BYRFQu

red top of the Isolator can be removed in the off position kit includes all parts need
Post #583140 6th Dec 2016 9:49pm
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xcentric



Member Since: 17 Jan 2016
Location: Midlands
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got a x-eng plate, got battery cutout switch, got padlock for battery compartment (though thats a minor inconvenience), gps/gsm tracker, and got most of the vehicle marked with smart water. Disklok - made offers on gumtree/ebay, and putting in one or more cutoff switches. Concept is that they all have to be easy to use when active and when not (Disklok is an exception), and able for me to sort the car in the middle of nowhere, knowing what I know about where stuff is. Might take me an hour but needs not to let me down!!

getting there....
Post #583162 6th Dec 2016 11:50pm
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