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The issue that I speak of is that late model 70 series Land Cruisers have a narrower track in the back than they do in the front. I think the difference is 10cm but I'm not completely sure about that.
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Any views on alloy or high grade aluminum spacers? I've gone with aluminum but then someone said alloy would have been better. This is just for my peace of mind.
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"High Grade alloy" is just marketing bumph and doesn't actually mean anything.
There are dozens if not hundreds of different aluminium alloys specified by different standards.

Your spacers are almost certainly an aluminium alloy rather than pure aluminium. Thumbs Up
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Hi all,

Kind of a thread hijack, but anyway...
Anyone know if you can replace wheel bearings with 30mm spacers still on the hub?
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Very unlikely and only if the spacers were a completely rubbish design.

Decent spacers will have a centre boss to locate the wheel which will partially encapsulate the drive flange or halfshaft end. With these you cannot remove the hub.

Very cheap spacers may not have the boss and with these you might be able to.

Why would you want to, by the way? Five nuts to remove the spacer- doesn't take long!
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Plenty of spacers from reputable suppliers are not hub centric. Since the nuts have cone seats, and assuming a proper tightening pattern, I don't see many advantages with an hub centric design, but I might be missing something here.

Anyway, why do I ask? I would never install spacers without locktiting the studs. Since loctite is not always available it would be nice to keep the spacer in place in case I needed to remove a flange, halfshaft or bearing
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Jose.Pereira wrote:
... I would never install spacers without locktiting the studs...


Why?

Correctly tightened you won't have any trouble with them loosening.
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Peace of mind.
The nuts are not visible for exterior inspection. And driving all day on corrugations does wonders, I even had a door come loose one time
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Fair enough! Thumbs Up
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So the consensus should be that with non hub-centric 30mm spacers it is possible to change the bearings with them on?
Thanks
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If you're taking enough tools and parts to change a drive flange or bearing, you could always throw a tube of Loctite in too? I'm pretty sure I remember one of the sets of bolts, potentially the drive flange ones, needing some sort of thread locker on them anyway?
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One more quick question on spacers.

I know that Simonbbc (Bulldog) says that hubcentric spacers are not compatible with HD flanges.
However I've seen some pics of hubcentric spacers with HD flanges (don't know the brand).

Any experiences with this?
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For quite a while ran Rakeway 30mm spacers with Ashcroft HD flanges with no problems whatsoever.
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Terrafirma spacers fit with britpart hd drive flanges Ray
My build thread
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html
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Thanks

Can you remove the flange or the hub with the Terrafirma ones installed?
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