Ryderoo wrote:

bargain at £90k. :Defender 90 HT Solihull SE, special end of line Santorini Black with mud pearl effect
Tow bar extra

If you can spray out or get rid of the slightly frightening side panel graphic I’ll take it ……


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doublea wrote:

Unless it has some amazing extras, why pay £80K?

There are three on pistonheads now, between £62K and £67.5K.

One has 869 miles, long enough perhaps for the owner to realise that they had bought a defender, not a normal suv!

I am convinced there is a peak in demand now and in 6 to 12 months there will be a lot of nearly new ones up for sale, time will tell...

I think there may well be some low mileage defenders put up for sale in the coming months by people who have bought them and then realised that they were not for them.

But as anyone wanting to order a new defender cannot now do so the alternative will be nearly new low mileage ones, so I think these will be snapped up very quickly. I was at my local dealer yesterday and he was saying that they are still getting daily enquiries for defenders and they have no new ones left nor any used stock.

Demand will stay high certainly until the replacement defender is announced and depending on what form that takes may well get even stronger.

Just my opinion though  2015 Defender 90XS HT

Browjam wrote:

Will it still leak?😀

Yep!

gilarion wrote:

Ryderoo wrote:

bargain at £90k. :Defender 90 HT Solihull SE, special end of line Santorini Black with mud pearl effect
Tow bar extra

If you can spray out or get rid of the slightly frightening side panel graphic I’ll take it ……

Thought it was a magic reflection, took years and lb's of me.

.........then .........I ......... Remembered my son took the photo  Cheers Simon

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doublea wrote:

Unless it has some amazing extras, why pay £80K?

There are three on pistonheads now, between £62K and £67.5K.

One has 869 miles, long enough perhaps for the owner to realise that they had bought a defender, not a normal suv!

I am convinced there is a peak in demand now and in 6 to 12 months there will be a lot of nearly new ones up for sale, time will tell...

doublea wrote:

Unless it has some amazing extras, why pay £80K?

There are three on pistonheads now, between £62K and £67.5K.

One has 869 miles, long enough perhaps for the owner to realise that they had bought a defender, not a normal suv!

I am convinced there is a peak in demand now and in 6 to 12 months there will be a lot of nearly new ones up for sale, time will tell...

It's not the only place the prices seem to be getting silly. Having thought I had won the Euromillions, I was perusing Bowler's new site. You can now buy a full Stage 1 Package for £20k (another £5k if you want stage 2). But if you buy the same parts from Bowler, they're only £14.5k. So does it really cost almost six large to fit some wheels, bumpers, sills and steps, couple of seats, and ECU and some sussies? 2-3 days work if you know what you're doing. Don't think so. Further, they have some silly prices. £1500 for their Stage 1 Tune which is simply an ECU remap that's £500 from BAS. And their Stage 2 is £4500 (haven't worked out if you need stage 1 first or if stage 2 is 'all in') but given some silicon hoses cost £50, a VV Turbo is £1000 and an Allisport Intercooler £500, the extra £3000 is a whole lot of rolling road tuning time. Apparently their fast suspension set up is unique to Bowler, yet built around the Bilstein B6 damper. You can buy all the parts for £1500 so where does the extra £1500 go? Sure you could find a race suspension specialist who would charge a lot less than that to get it fine tuned for you. On a similar theme their Recaro seats (cloth and leather, not full leather albeit heated) are £3600, and their Momo wheel and boss £300??? LRI do the same seats for approx £2000 and you can go to Demon Tweeks and source a steering wheel and boss for £200. So where are all these 20, 30, 40% mark ups? Just so you can get Bowler letters on your bonnet and a plaque by the gear stick? With the savings I mentioned above, pre fitting you can buy everything from Bowler or replacement sources, for just over £10k. Likely it would take a weekend to DIY fit. So £10k for a plaque? Really? There's 'heritage' and then there's 'seen them coming'. Still love their kit, and will buy most of it, but it'll be a DIY fit. The £10k saved will buy a lot of beer to dampen the ego for not having 'Bowler' on the Bonnet. So, the recent surge of interest in the brand inflating prices is not the preserve of LR.  Monsieur Le Grenadier

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Grenadier wrote:

So does it really cost almost six large to fit some wheels, bumpers, sills and steps, couple of seats, and ECU and some sussies? 2-3 days work if you know what you're doing. Don't think so.

Fozzauk wrote:

Grenadier wrote:

So does it really cost almost six large to fit some wheels, bumpers, sills and steps, couple of seats, and ECU and some sussies? 2-3 days work if you know what you're doing. Don't think so.

I though the Bowler prices were inclusive of fitting? It did used to say on their website and when I was at Bowler speaking with Jon the fitted price was no different to the advertised price?